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I'm hoping someone here will be able to offer a couple of suggestions or point me in the right direction, as I've been intermittently reading articles / reviews all day and I haven't made any progress. (It's related to selling, because I need a camera to take decent images :D).

 

Anyway, the jist is, my old camera malfunctioned today and I really need to replace it. I am not a skilled or knowledgeable photographer, and I'm not very rich, either, so what I really need is a budget-conscious compact point n' shoot digital camera that will take good, clear macro images (99% of my images will need to use the macro function) without too much fuss or fiddling between products (preferably none Smiley LOL ). I realise "budget conscious" can limit the options, quality etc, so I'm not expecting I'll be able to take magazine quality images, just looking for the best option under $300 (or $200 :D). 

 

 I'm looking to buy a new, non-grey import from an Australian retailer - I've searched and read (and searched and read!) for articles, first for recommendations, most of which are outdated (even the ones that had a post date of 2016 referenced model numbers I can't find anywhere), then for what kind of specs I should look out for when looking at a camera in order to determine whether it's suitable, but most websites just have overall reviews on specific models and don't tell what spec or feature of the camera is resulting in the relevant performance aspect, except for DSLRs etc....if that makes sense... Most of them also only seem to mention cameras in the $400 and above price bracket, so maybe what I'm looking for isn't possible or available? 

 

 

 

So, can someone please save my sanity and help me understand what features a camera should have to take decent macro images, or offer a brand / model suggestion? (The now-passed away camera was just a Samsung ES55 - it was ok, but often a bit grainy / noisy). 

 

TIA 🙂 

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Hi,

I've bought many of these over years and think they are one of the best simple cameras.

 

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/OLYMPUS-Stylus-Smart-VH-520-Black-14-MP-10x-Optical-Zoom-Compact-Digital-...

 

Even if not this model I swear by Olympus. Very robust and water resistant.

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Thank you kopes 😄 Looks like a pretty good option to me. (Olympus is one brand name that did not pop up in all my searchings - It was all Panasonic Lumix this and Canon Powershot that, so half of them were probably paid advertising in one form or another, but none of the model numbers matched what's available here anyway, while the closest matching ones seemed to be around $600 Smiley Embarassed). 

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My main camera is a Canon PowerShot A2000IS bought in 2009, which does the job reasonably well as long as it isn't too dark (the CPU simply can't handle low light without the whole thing lagging, yet strangely it works fine in video mode, never dropping a single frame, although it's only 640x480 - at least it's a solid 30fps and not 15 or all over the place like you'd find on old YouTube videos).

When taking photos for eBay I use a small tripod* with the camera set in macro mode with the self-timer on so it doesn't shake when taking a photo. I do not use the flash at all, in fact, I've turned it off in the settings so it never activates. In most cases, the lower ISO speed (shutter/aperture speed, I can't remember) will result in a better photo quality, e.g. a shot taken indoors at ISO 800 will probably look grainy, but at ISO 80 or 100 it should be crisp. This camera has a 1600x1200 option so I use that rather than waste bandwidth uploading 10 megapixel images which take forever to download even on a decent broadband connection, not to mention large photos often end up grainy anyway. This one was a present, so I don't know exactly how much it was, but I think it was over $300 when new.

*Actually, the tripod I use was made out of a 1.25L Pepsi bottle with a bolt stuck through the lid acting as the mount for the camera.

Both of these cameras use regular AA batteries, which I always prefer to see rather than proprietary shapes and sizes which are not interchangeable. Both regular 1.5V batteries (alkaline etc.) and 1.2V rechargeables work fine in both cameras - I bought two Duracell rechargeables with the Canon camera in 2009 and only now are they starting to not hold a full charge, giving the low battery light after only a few minutes of the camera being on despite being straight off the charger.

Another thing about batteries in cameras, if it uses AAAs or requires three batteries, buy another camera instead as it will drain these batteries quick smart, and for those with three batteries you'll be lucky if it even turns on using rechargeables at 3.6V when it expects 4.5V (or 4V/3.5V minimum).

Similar to your ES55, I also have an ancient Samsung S750 (from circa 2007) which also suffers from grainy images; it's all up to the amount of light I think, it's probably fine when taking photos outdoors in sunny weather, but indoors under a single CFL lighting the entire room, it's as good as it can get even at highest quality, ISO 80 and with the self-timer. As for price, this one cost me nothing! It was found in the hard rubbish with a bunch of old/broken/SIM-less phones and a few cables (CAT5/phone line etc). The only thing wrong with it was the fact it had two leaked Energizer batteries and no SD card.
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Digi, I have had over 50 years experience with cameras, starting as a teenage member of a Camera Club and going through two husbands who were professional photographers/camera shop owners.

 

The writeups on Panasonic Lumix and Canon Powershot are not just paid advertising.  They are two of the best, reasonably priced cameras on the market.  If you can find one with a Leica lens you will have top quality.  I would recommend you to look at both of them and see if you can find a model that has the features that you need.

Take yourelf into a specialist camera store and see what they can show you.  You often find that cameras are sold in Australia under different model numbers than overseas and the writeups are based on the overseas models.

 

In 1983 I got myself a Canon SLR...top of the range at the time, with all the lenses....and I still use it on the few occasions that I need a camera although getting the film developed is a bit of a pain now.  My daughter bought the digital version and she is ecstatic about it, especially when she nicks my lenses.  However it is not a cheap camera by any stretch of the imagination.

 

We had a cheap Panasonic Lumix for a number of years which was great for close up work....photographed all my jewellery for insurance purposes as well as other collectibles.   Unfortunately OH dropped it and it was goodbye to a very handy little digital camera.

He has just bought another "cheapie" for general use...not even sure what it is but he seems happy.

 

 

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Similar to your ES55, I also have an ancient Samsung S750 (from circa 2007) which also suffers from grainy images; it's all up to the amount of light I think, it's probably fine when taking photos outdoors in sunny weather, but indoors under a single CFL lighting the entire room, it's as good as it can get even at highest quality, ISO 80 and with the self-timer. 

That's actually good to know 🙂 (As in, at least it probably wasn't what I was doing that was causing it. 😄 ). I have a tripod as well (quasi-Christmas gift, via a JB Hifi gift card in 2014) and I think I've used it twice Smiley Embarassed I know I probably should be using it, but the best spot in the house, in terms of lighting, is kind of an awkward space, and I like to move the camera around to all sorts of different spots and angles, so I found it easier to just hold it and move around the object myself, plus I found image clarity was still less than perfect, which I thought the tripod would help with, but obviously more of a camera / setting issue. I'd probably be half-decent at dance-freeze games, now though. Except for not really being able to dance. Smiley LOL

 

I'll have to try adjusting the ISO on the next one, I only ever really experimented with some of the more basic settings, partly because I don't know what I'm doing or what the options would affect, and partly because I worried I'd forget what I'd done and not know how to change it back. 

 

My old (old) camera was a Ricoh (which I had for ages and it put up really well with all sorts of abuse, including being held together with gaffa tape towards the end Smiley Embarassed ) that used 2 AAs and I really liked that, because I could charge up spare batteries while using others, but the Samsung had its own rechargable lithium battery, less convenient but lasted quite a long time between charges - will note the advice re: required batteries, though, as that wasn't even on my radar. 

 

Ta muchly for all the tips and info. 🙂 

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Digi, I have had over 50 years experience with cameras, starting as a teenage member of a Camera Club and going through two husbands who were professional photographers/camera shop owners.

 

The writeups on Panasonic Lumix and Canon Powershot are not just paid advertising.  They are two of the best, reasonably priced cameras on the market.  If you can find one with a Leica lens you will have top quality.  I would recommend you to look at both of them and see if you can find a model that has the features that you need.

Take yourelf into a specialist camera store and see what they can show you.  You often find that cameras are sold in Australia under different model numbers than overseas and the writeups are based on the overseas models.

 

 

 


Thanks, lyndal, it's difficult to know for sure sometimes, as some lists were nearly all Panasonic and Canon cameras, just different model numbers, and they only seemed to mention pros not cons, whereas when other brands were mentioned, they seemed to be looked at with a much more critical eye. 

 

The Samsung was actually supposed to be a stop-gap solution Smiley Embarassed, so I didn't really want to go down that road again, but alas my bank-balance is saying no to all the ones that I could find that seemed to fit all my other needs etc. (My phone's camera is terrible, too, so I can't use that while I save a bit for a decent camera, unfortunately) I'll definitely have a chat with someone at a specialist store and see what they can tell me. 

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Digi I just checked with my OH....the new "cheapie" camera is a Samsung WB35F.  It has not been used much yet and certainly not for close up work so I can't give you much information.

 

I am guessing that the reviews you were reading did not mention too many cons was because there were not many/any to mention.  At least that has been our experience over the years.   It is really a matter of finding the model that has the features that suit what you want it for,

 

We are lifelong fans of Panasonic products....since the days when they were branded National.....I still have a small National desk fan going strong in my sewing room after 40 odd years and it got a very good workout when my girls used the room as a study.  And I have loved all my Panasonic DVD recorders right from the very first one in 1982.   At least I can work them without the need of an instruction book for every step.

BTW if you ever need technical help the Panasonic people are fantastic.

 

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Don't mean to hijack your thread DG, but I have some interest in this topic, I have a tiny compact Canon which is getting long in the tooth and probably need to update soon. But I promised myself my next camera would have remote capture capabilities. I have the luxury of space in my workshop and want to set up a permanent photography point rather than have to drag everything out each time I need to take pics. I have a professional quality tripod (best bargain I've ever scored, picked it up for $5 in a bin of "imperfects" at Harvey Norman, the imperfection turned out to be a missing leg clamp that cost me $4 to replace, the RRP of the tripod was $350!) and I want to be able to control the camera form my PC instead of constantly getting up and down to rearrange things and take the shot every time. Are any of the models recommended above suitable? It seems to me they don't readily identify this feature in camera specs, it is really hard to find.
Cheers,

Penny
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Get a DSLR Camers and a 50mm lens.

I like mine.

The trick is the 50mm lens. 

 

Canon 400d 

 

They are cheap to buy and work well.

I got mine for about $200 incl lens.

 

before contrast afjustment

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Replacement-Starter-Motor-24V-Auxillary-Solenoid-/262343345813?ssPageName...

 

After contrast adjustment

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Replacement-regulator-John-Deere-Kohler-Regulator-Rectifier-B-AC-AC-/2623...

 

Mobile phone image.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Replacement-Starter-Motor-Brush-2M100-Jaguar-Range-Rover-MG-triumph-/2623...

 

 

 

You do have to adjust the contrast, as I discovered, in am image program.

Got to go back and adjust my images. 

Takes a long time... I guess this is why people study photography 😃

 

Listen to Penny, she/he has it right with the tripod

 

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