Forcing me to managed payment or deny new listings

[retrowise]

I wanted to put up a new item but message came up I must register to managed payments. So I go to the link where it says "express interest". I fill out the form but skip the "Why are you interested in managed payments?" because I am not interested in it. Off course it won't let me continue. So I feel I'm being forced to voluntarily sign up for something I don't want. When I dig deeper, I find they also want driver's licence and who knows what other persona information which in no way I will submit to some private company online.

The question I have is it even legal to force people this way or simply deny their service?

I've been with ebay since the start but this will probably be the end of it. What are your thoughts

[sugar249]

https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/confirm-your-identity

[p9games]

outrageous isnt it?  You've only had a year to make this transition.  

[sugar249]

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@p9games wrote:

outrageous isnt it?  You've only had a year to make this transition.  

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Thats not quite correct,  one of my accounts was transitioned about 9 months ago,   this one only a couple of days ago,   and another is still awaiting the invite.  So not 100% correct that they had a year.    Don't get me wrong I am all for MP.

[queerboy]

Actually, I’m a first time seller and listed a few items and then get informed after the fact about these rules. Extremely poor business practice especially if eBay have been aware of these requirements for a year. 

The issue for the average punter is that we are being asked to provide literally every point of data required for identity theft, name, address, bank account, dob, drivers licence. It flies in the face of everything we have been taught about privacy and digital security. And unlike PayPal payment gateway being used to securely transmit credit card details, they appear to be getting stored on eBay servers. Again a security concern.

But the biggest issue is that all of these details the government already has access to via our bank account, so the premise is flimsy if not entirely bogus. The net effect is it alienates and suppresses the casual seller and favours commercial entities. Which is what we have seen eBay try to become, a poor version of Amazon instead of what it was initially created for. 

[sugar249]

If you object so much you have the power in your hand,  close your account.   Simple solution.

PS.   Paypal want the same information,   

[queerboy]

As an IT manager I am more aware than most regarding security amongst businesses. PayPal as a payment gateway is required by law to adhere to far stricter standards of security. It is why your are passed to their site for the entry of cc details and eBay never has access to your cc details at all. With the details being requested the same can not be said. And trying to fob off valid concerns of the community is just ignorance or arrogance. Take your pick. 

Do the corporate entities selling on eBay have to provide these details or is it assumed they have been provided when registering their company? The exact same premise exists for anyone with an Australian bank account.. all of these details were supplied at the time of creating the account and are safer there than at the mercy of eBay. 

[queerboy]

And if you think your information is safe think again. Some may be comfortable with disclosing this information in order to sell a few second hand items, I am not. A lot won’t be. 

https://cybernews.com/security/14-million-amazon-and-ebay-accounts-sold-online-in-new-leak/

[davewil1964]

Adyen, the payment processor eBay uses, is required to adhere to the same standards as Paypal. And banks.

Your IT management doesn't seem to extend to ascertaining facts.

[queerboy]

On the contrary Dave it is unlikely these details will be treated in the same manner or rigour as bank and cc details and entirely likely passes through other applications - ie some seem to be asked to provide scanned copy of bills showing their name and home address. How these are stored and protected is vastly different and legally will also have lower requirements. Happy to go toe to toe with you on this if you want to test my knowledge. 

[davewil1964]

I am unlikely to want to waste the time. You have an obvious mindset that precludes facts, so go your own, non-eBay, way.

Adyen, as has been noted, has the same requirements re data security as any bank, or Paypal.

If you don't believe that, then your boss should probably terminate you. You don't seem to be able to research facts, and are thus unsuitable to be an IT manager. Or to have anything to do with IT, frankly.