I tried to end an item early but could not even though it had more then 12 hours to run

[rgherron]

I tried to end an item early but could not even though it had more then 12 hours to run . I have had to do this before . I have a pawn shop and this happens not unfrequently often because owners of items redeem them at the last minute . I have not had trouble doing this before . Am I doing something wrong or has eBay changed its policy to make this difficult for sellers to withdraw items  ?  

[cq_tech]

Why else would I ask if the laws or regulations have changed in the intervening years since I did?

As rgherron has been in the industry for 23 years, my assumption is that if anybody knows, he would.

So thanks for your unsolicited & unnecessary comment, but I'll wait for the expert's answer if it's all the same to you.

[thecatspjs]

Trading in second hand goods of many types I am familiar with a range of legislation.

Your commentary is not based on the legislation in any state that I can see.  In Victoria there is no requirement to auction goods in the manner you have described. 

CQ  and others anyone can do a quick google and confirm in 5 seconds flat that the information in CQs  post is incorrect. 

The OP has indicated that they have direct experience of over two decades in the area, so I do not understand how doing contract work for a pawnbroker several years ago has provided you with an expertise in excess of the OP.

The legislative frameworks in this area have changed over the past couple of decades.  Changes (from around 1998) saw new players taking advantage of this including Cash Converters and the like.  None, of which are required to dispose of the goods in the manner you have described. 

[cq_tech]

Cats, you appear to read a lot but comprehend little, although if I'm to take your word for it, you're clearly far better versed in the use of Google than I am, in which case I'm sure you won't mind providing the relevant links which will answer what I posed as a question, and not an explanation of how things work today, as I know the regulations have changed.

[thecatspjs]

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@cq_tech wrote:
Cats, you appear to read a lot but comprehend little.......

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CQ if that what is what you think, thats fine by me. 

Let others think what they like according to the posts on this thread - they tell the tale.

[thecatspjs]

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@rgherron wrote:

I am entitled to offer items for sale as soon as the pledge has expired as at that time they become mine .

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For others viewing this "entertaining" interaction - the answer was provided by the OP in one of their posts.  IMO the response is consistent with the legislation and regulations in Victoria (the framework I am most familar with).

EDIT Please no-one report the comment in the post above mine from CQ regarding my character - it doesn't faze me, one can expect any more from this poster 

[iamanark]

“Well what an unhelpful , ignorant, arrogant, judgemental little group of charmers you are”

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Yes, eBay is a community, but there are some sad individuals here .

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And one of this little group of charmers was recently caught out breaching the Commonwealth Postal regulations and their actions were being followed up by Australia Post,

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Yet they have the hide to reign over the Kangaroo court here .

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We are all in the gutter …. And some belong there

[bsal6160]

Now howcome we ARE all hanging Cq for his comments? He clearly states

'rgherron, several years ago I used to do quite a lot of contract electrical work for my local pawnbroker and as I remember it, the law was quite specific at the time, but it may well have changed during the ensuing period. "

A good escape clause by the way....

The OP's original post implied that the item had still belonged to the owner. ANY reasonable person would have come to the same conclusion that most did on this subject. Selling an item that wasn't his as that's what the original post implied. Instead of posting a tirade of abuse back, maybe a more diplomatic approach would have been to clarify your point? Forum members may have been able to provide more positive advise that way.

[coast_golf]

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@rgherron wrote:

While "coast-gulf" seems incliined to understand that the rest of his assertions about not offering paypal and hence not getting the best price I can for the item are equally nonsensical . For reasons of their own and quite unexpalined despite my excellent eBay record -far better than any of yours - they stopped me using my paypal account or i would still be using it . 

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It's obviously none of my business why your Paypal account was suspended/cancelled/whatever and my post, while not intended as legal advice, was a friendly 'heads up'.

My area of interest is QLD law so it would be rather presumptuous of me to assert that the Small Claims Division in NSW would be in agreeance with my point of view but nevertheless I'd be concerned that while advertising on a particular medium where the vast majority of purchases are paid for by a method that you do not accept may run afoul of the following requirement -

If pawned goods have not been redeemed at the end of the redemption period and the principal lent on the goods was greater than the amount prescribed by the regulations, the pawnbroker must, as soon as reasonably practicable, sell the goods in a manner conducive to securing the best price reasonably obtainable

Going on to claim a market value that is almost double the selling price can, in my mind, mean 1 of only 2 things -

1. You did not sell the goods in a manner conducive to securing the best price (hence my initial concerns).

2. Your advertising is deceptive and/or misleading (and I don't believe that is the case, $700 would seem a touch ambitious IMO but certainly within the ballpark).

Labelling my post as nonsensical and judgemental is a touch ironic given you are complaining of being judged by a kangaroo court. Again, it was to alert you to something you may not have even considered and I cast absolutely no aspersions on your character. As for having "a far better ebay record" than any of us, I have 2 other accounts with FB (and better DSR's) that exceed yours by a significant amount. Numerous posters here do not do so from their primary account so beware of making assumpions on that basis.

I wish you all the best in your endeavours.

[thecatspjs]

My take on this is that ebay still attracts a significant number of users who seek items for pick up only, make payment via bank deposit or are up for making payment via other safe means such as paymate or merchant credit card.

IMO most goods being sold on ebay are promoted to a vastly larger market than if sitting on store shelf, even in the absence of paypal being offered.

[cq_tech]

rgherron, at no time did I intend to imply that you were acting illegally or unethically and I sincerely and genuinely apologise if you believed that to be the case.

I was simply reiterating the regulations as they were explained to me at that time, and which I had no reason to doubt, which is also why I expected that things would be much different now, yet rather than providing links to the relevant current legislation and correcting my misapprehensions, one self-opinionated poster saw fit to ridicule my post instead.

No "Kangaroo Court here"; just somebody who happens to be interested in the current FACTS.