Item-specific Listing Removed Sick Of It???

[pandorasbox*2013]

Ebay has a specific category for Golliwogs under Dolls. There are over 30 listed. Mine was removed as it was reported and removed under the Hateful & Racist policy. Why would they have a specific category for an item if they are only going to remove it because obviously someone who has issues is offended.!!

[agoraagogo]

my jemima doll was adorable and i actually think having her in my life made me feel that being black was ok. as a child i'd see her smiling face on packs of self-raising flour too. she may have been a slave cook or an employee. but as a child looking at that i'd just see my doll. i remember being very attracted to that image.

the history is important. i agree with that. however things morph, soften, get diluted. i'd never call my african american friend a n.... but i call myself a wog. to own the word is to have power over it not it over you.

some time ago i sold a black chalkware wall hanging chef. looked like a golly. possibly meant to depict a slave cook. don't know for sure but he was very cute. if anyone had told be it was offensive i'd have tossed it. i don't think it was. are the black vintage bobblehead dolls of children offensive too?

the only thing i dislike more that racism is fundamentalism.

it will be interesting to see how this plays out.

[stuffedwithplush]

No news from Ebay on the discussions. No email or call to us about our 85 removed listings.

I think, that they assume if they don't reply, then the "problem" will go away.

I suggest its only listings that sold internationally that were targetted (IE seen in the USA). But we have been warned not to relist until a decision is made either way.

[imastawka]

Strange.     I understand the listings for Australia only. 

But an American listing just went up at 1.18pm today

[lotsamagsnbags]

ok well heres the reply I just received...

This is a follow-up email in regard to the removal of your Golliwog related item.

I apologise if we just contacted you today since we just got an update. Anyway, in accordance with feedback from our community, we have made the decision to prohibit the sale of golliwog dolls and many associated products from our site globally. We believe this is the right thing to do and is consistent with our values as a business. This is not a reflection or judgement on anyone selling the item. We thank you for your understanding and ask you to please not list these kinds of items.

Books, artwork and music are part of the exemption, however sellers cannot use the term Golliwog/Golly in the listing unless that term is included in the actual title of the media. Please make the necessary revision when you list your item.

If you are able to see sellers selling the same items, provide us the item numbers so that necessary action will be taken.

Thank you for choosing eBay.

so what an earth do I call it gollie spelt ie ?  as a prev poster said wog was the derogoratory term... any ideas???

[agoraagogo]

wendshee said...

"We can't even buy black dolls here where I live. They were all pulled from the shelves because they were considered racist. They weren't golliwogs, or mammies or anything else that others see as being racist, they were just plain dolls with hair and pretty clothes. I had a black doll when I was little, even though I preferred Tonka trucks to dolls. I loved that thing to death!

We have a 15-20% black population where I live, mostly Sudanese and Zimbabwean. They can't work out why they can't buy their little girls a black doll if that's what they prefer. They are FORCED to give them white dolls because they don't have a choice if they want to buy locally. Are they considered racist because they want to give their girls a black doll? I don't believe they are. It's their personal choice. We can buy white dolls for our white children, why aren't they allowed to have black dolls for their children? THAT is political correctness gone mad!

Australia is all about tolerance and acceptance of other cultures who want to immigrate here, yet they can't buy a black doll anywhere in this area."

what a nanny state we live in.

are we really this precious now?

tell your african friends to buy their black dolls from ebay.  there are thousands of them.

[agoraagogo]

for now...

[agoraagogo]

lotsamagsnbags said:

"Books, artwork and music are part of the exemption, however sellers cannot use the term Golliwog/Golly in the listing unless that term is included in the actual title of the media. Please make the necessary revision when you list your item."

books, artwork and music exempt.  thank goodness for clarity and consistency (not).

when i listed my gollys years ago i recall i didn't  use the g word in case it caused offence.  i think i listed them as "black knitted dolls".

[harley_babes_hoard]

that's the stupid thing also the F word is banned on everything but cd, dvd books so what the hell is the difference whether it's a patch or a book it's still the F word.

[agoraagogo]

no difference except that books, dvds and cds can be rated and patches can't.

[imastawka]

And yet......................they still have the sub-category - golliwogs??????????????