Local-pickup return obligations? Buyer asking for $100 bank transfer because item not as described.

Hello, I am not very experienced with ebay, and I have ended up with my first complaint, which is upsetting me a bit, as I really try to be as open and honest as possible. To me this sale wasn't about the money, but rather a sentimental item that had been in my family my entire life, that I hoped to go to a good home. I would like to get your perspective on this, what my obligations are, and what I should do?

 

I recently listed a chest of drawers for $80, which I didn't know much about at the time (I am currently trying to clear out an entire house asap). I put up 3 pictures, and described it as I saw it, as "Really nice, solid antique set of drawers. In excellent condition." I was surprised that there was a lot of interest in the drawers. I realized late towards the end of the auction that they are in fact quite antique (19th century) and I found a receipt for their purchase from 1982 for $400. However, it was too late to modify the ad or remove it. In end they were sold for $417, and were Local-pickup only.

 

The buyer came (two people) to pickup the drawers and paid in cash, and took them home. A few days later they have sent me a message to say that they are not happy with the drawers, and they are not in great condition and there a several issues with them, and if they had known they would not have completed the transaction, but they say that if I transfer $100 to their bank account, they will hold onto the drawers. The thing that particularly annoys me about this is that this buyer sent me a message a few hours before the end of the sale asking about the wood, where I told them that I recently found out it is cedar and I have a receipt for their sale for $400 in 1982 (which I showed when they picked them up). They are the only buyer to have known this, as I couldn't modify the ad anymore (I tried). These drawers are likely more valuable than what they got them for, and they are now asking for me send them money.

 

Questions:

(1) What are my obligations as the seller for local pickup returns? They were able to inspect the item when they picked it up. Do I still have an obligation?

(2) If I say that I will give them a complete refund, whose obligation is it to return the item?

(3) Are they allowed to ask for compensation by means of a bank transfer? And why $100? It is not my fault where they live.

(4) Is there a specific rule for what the definition conditions listed in ads? E.g. Does "excellent" condition imply something in particular? I used the term perhaps loosely, but I still think the drawers are in very good condition (especially now considering their age).

 

There was no part where I tried to mislead them at all, but perhaps I should have been more careful - but I am in such a rush to clear stuff, and I didn't expect them to go for much, that I thought that people would inspect them when they come anyway. These drawers are quite sentimental to me, and I didn't want to part with them, and now thinking perhaps it is a sign I should try and hold onto to them (not sure where they will fit though...). Thank you for your help!

 

Cheers, Steve

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Re: Local-pickup return obligations? Buyer asking for $100 bank transfer because item not as describ


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I had a listing removed because I stated PayPay would not be accepted.
After advising ebay of my concerns about possible buyer fraud I

received this reply... 

 

Hello Nickolas, 

Thanks for contacting eBay about the removed listing. 

 

I see that your intention to include your payment preference in the listing is because it is the most convenient way to pay local pick up items. I totally understand where you’re coming from as I am also a seller. 

 

Basically, our eBay Money Back Guarantee doesn’t cover local pick up items provided that the listing offers no other shipping option but local pick up only. I agree that sometimes, buyers will claim that they did not receive the item they paid. With this, we created a rule to help our sellers to be protected. For local pick up items, if the buyer paid through PayPal, they are obliged to pick the item right away or as soon as the seller provided an address where to pick the item. Seller needs to state the address through eBay messages for documentation. As long as there is a communication from the seller through eBay messages that they already informed the buyer where to pick the item, buyer is no longer covered by eBay Money Back Guarantee and PayPal Buyer Protection.

 

Basically, we cannot force our sellers to accept PayPal payments only. However, we also do not encourage them to directly state it in the listing as having this statement will affect buyer’s confidence and may discourage them to buy. 

 

You can still let your buyer know about your payment preferences by sending them message through eBay. This is the safest way for your listing not to be removed. You are very welcome to relist the item provided that you remove the phrase.

  

I appreciate your understanding in this matter. If you have other concern, please feel free to contact us.


I don't doubt for a second that that is what ebay sent you, but i can tell you now that is not necessarily how ebay actually works.

We sold a pick up only item. It was clearly listed as such on the ad.

My sister sent many polite messages giving address and trying to arrange pick up-suggesting weekends and other times, over the course of about 2 weeks. Buyer ignored messages and in fact only paid (via paypal) when a non payment case opened.

 

They were refunded their money by paypal a couple of weeks later when they rang paypal to say they could not pick up. My sister never was refunded her listing fees, despite ringing ebay and being assured it would be done. When my sister rang ebay they said it was only fair the buyer was refunded as they had paid but didn't have their item.

The buyer also tried to bully my sister into posting (without paying any extra mind you), saying once something was paid via paypal it was a requirement. At least ebay agreed with my sister on that one and when they saw the ad said no, it was clearly pick up only, we were under no obligation to post.

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