on 04-05-2021 08:16 AM
Soooo ebay stated that MOST people will be better off with managed payments. Who so far has not been ripped off? 1 transaction on managed payments and $2.32 worse off than the old final value and paypal fee structure. Add that to the gouge of paying final value fees on postage. This is a money hungry platform.... im tired of it....
on 05-05-2021 09:00 PM
and re topic Dave , I think it's a joke
and I also think it's laughable that so many can't see the forest for the trees.
on 05-05-2021 09:09 PM
There's quite a bit of confusion at this stage but I'm sure after a couple of sale and payment cycles more will come to light.
on 05-05-2021 09:10 PM
This is a very interesting thread:
on 05-05-2021 09:20 PM
You are correct in that it costs more for non-Paypal payments. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of buyers who chose to trust an absolute stranger to fulfill the contract. In 12 years.
You seem to have many buyers who trust you. But don't trust you enough to buy from you on your other platforms.
Says something.
05-05-2021 09:36 PM - edited 05-05-2021 09:37 PM
@mtshed2014 wrote:when you say "Bank deposit is not an option for sellers on managed payments." , how then does the money transfer from a buyers bank account to the sellers bank account ?
Adyen is a payment processor that is equipped to handle multiple payment methods, but bank transfer isn't currently one of them, and here I'm referring to the kind of payment where the buyer performs a direct transfer from one bank account to another, using BSB and account numbers; when sellers can offer this, they will receive that money directly into their own bank account. Other payment methods can debit a bank account and credit a different account straight away, but they aren't direct bank transfers, per se.
Did you ever receive a PayPal echeque, where the payment took several days to clear? That was the compromise between direct bank transfer and instant PayPal payment, and was subject to PayPal fees even though it was transferring money from a bank account to a PayPal account rather than a credit card payment (such transfers wouldn't incur fees if you made basically the same one from one of your own bank accounts to your PayPal account, but they did if a buyer made a transfer). You can liken eBay's managed payments system to this, in a way - the clearance time is faster than an echeque, but the time those funds actually become usable is about the same, so there are drawbacks to the system, more particularly in regards to cashflow.
The way it should work is funds clear to eBay first, then to the seller, then get disbursed to the seller's bank account per the options they selected (daily or weekly). The FVF inclusive of a payment processing fee applies because ebay's processor (Adyen) is supposed to be doing all the processing on all payments (as in, there is no option to make an online payment without going through eBay's checkout with Adyen processing the payment), except for cash on pick up, however because eBay didn't separate the FVF from the payment processing fee, cash on pick up will incur the processing portion of the fee regardless.
They (Adyen) can do credit / debit cards (the debit card has to be Visa or Mastercard, though), which is how the vast majority of buyers paid when they selected Paypal, either through their account (i.e. their card was linked to an actual account), or just through guest checkout which was still processed to the seller as a PayPal payment, plus they can process PayPal payments and a variety of others.
All this is to say that if you have been switched over to MP and are still receiving payments to a PayPal account, something has actually gone wrong.
on 05-05-2021 10:03 PM
Hi, I'm not sure where the information is coming from in regard to no more PayPal fees but this is a quick grab from my PayPal account relative to an item sold on 3rd of May from an eBay account that has been regsitered with managed payments for some time before that date.
3rd May
Purchase details
$70.00
Item number
Shipping
$50.85
Purchase total
$120.85
Fee
-negative $3.44
Total
$117.41
Adding the associated eBay fees the total fees came to 13.75%
Also, my apologies for confusing some of your thread comments to be replies to my own comments. I am not a regular on here and have been trying my best to follow thread timelines whilst signing in and out of multiple accounts during the day.
on 05-05-2021 10:14 PM
Interesting post, thank you.
maybe I am thick...
"The way it should work is funds clear to eBay first,"
If they clear to eBay they have to clear to somewhere....so where are they cleared to...an Ayden account ?
My quick google grabs have me finding this ...
wiki :
Ayden is a Dutch payment company that allows businesses to accept e-commerce, mobile, and point-of-sale payments. It is listed on the stock exchange Euronext.
Ayden offers merchants online services for accepting electronic payments by payment methods including credit cards, bank based payments such as debit cards,
bank transfer, and real-time bank transfers based on online banking. Ayden's online payment platform connects to payment methods across the world.
Payment methods include international credit cards, local cash-based methods, such as Bolete in Brazil, Internet banking methods, such as IDEAL in the
Netherlands and Mobile payment methods, such as blank in Poland. The technology platform acts as a payment gateway
payment service provider and offers risk management and local acquiring
eBay Australia benefits of managed payments :
05-05-2021 10:15 PM - edited 05-05-2021 10:15 PM
So you have reiterated on at least 2 threads that your fees were 13.75% regardless of whether they were pre- or post-MP.
What is your point?
on 06-05-2021 12:02 AM
Having spent a bit of time reading and posting on Managed Payment threads today I have found something that might explain why Managed Payments don’t include Bank Transfers for purchases. This is not saying that you didn’t have a buyer pay by this method in recent days, just a possible explanation of why eBay wouldn’t want it as a payment method.
eBay Money Back Guarantee policy says to be eligible:
The MBG policy says that:
(spoiler shows screen capture from MBG policy)
If Bank Transfers were allowed through Managed Payments then eBay would need to include these under the MBG.
on 06-05-2021 12:08 AM
> eBay Stores selling fees for managed payments sellers
right down the bottom of the page :
> Fees for using PayPal
> We don't charge fees for using PayPal on eBay. However, if you accept PayPal payments, PayPal will charge a fee when you complete a sale, and the buyer pays with PayPal.
Above info is obviously current as it's on the eBay's managements payments customer service page.
I can't see any option for selecting or deselecting PayPal when listing an item so maybe it has moved to a global parameter page. It is however seen on the listed item as a payment method.
Hopefully it will all come out in the wash.