Managed payments is very poor for your vendors

[natrow2]

eBay, your managed payments system sucks, sold to your members as easier quicker etc, that's bs, sold something on the 10th, money is getting initiated to my bank acc 13th, won't see it till 16th if I am lucky. Sold without managed payments, would have seen it straight away.

[digital*ghost]

---

@heihachi_73 wrote:
If you're not making at least six figures per month eBay don't want to know you. It's the sad reality of the modern-day eBay Incorporated. Once you become a business like Harvey Norman, Good Guys, EB Games etc. they will sit up and take notice. It's like a casino which gives its millionaire patrons bonuses for gambling, but the people who spend $50 on the pokies don't even get a free coffee.

---

Except none of the big box retailers have been shifted to MP, as far as I can see, and none of them probably have to (there may be some, I guess, that have been moved, and there are certainly some big sellers who have been migrated, but I haven't seen one nationally recognised brand / store that has been so if any have, they'd be very few and far between.

If a change like this was to cater for / to them, they would have been among the first to sign on. It's true that MP causes less inconvenience to bigger sellers, but this is not exactly by design on eBay's part. I'm sure they knew they'd lose a bunch of sellers over it, of course, but you're right about one thing - they really don't have a reason to care. They call this sort of thing "seller churn" and not only do they expect it, they strategise around it. 

They know that in a year or two, they'll just have the sellers who didn't take personal umbrage to the change and stuck around, along with all the new sellers who come along and have only ever known MP. 

Re: the gambling analogy, everyone gets free coffee & biscuits (free listings, the occasional extra promotion etc). High rollers get free luxury hotel stays and bottles of Moët (I guess that would be all the extra free promotion, probably lowered or possibly even no fees, special treatment in other ways, and so on). 

[danieh_6]

Only small amount of retailers have jumped ship I have noticed. Its very easy to check if they are on MP or not. Furthermore I must add with the large retailers that aren't using MP. Afterpay is still available on most.

[justkidzbiz]

What annoys me with MP is that, you can get your money straight away, but you surprise surprise, you have to pay a fee. Total BS.

[sandypebbles]

Nope

Sorry

eBay could not care less who posts what on here

Now again they put up a post to big note how great they are or to post something that members have already been talking about on here for weeks 

And then they block members from making any comments on their 'special news' 

They don't even moderate the board

That is how much they care or look at anyone's comments but their own

Hope you did'nt bet too much

[heihachi_73]

Not in all venues, some places charge $3+ for a coffee, never mind the sandwiches or hot food (and up to $5 for a Coke; in one RSL I went to it was actually cheaper for a glass of VB than a soft drink - $4.50 for a Coke and $4.00 straight for a beer), and then there's Crown Melbourne, where the only thing free is water unless you have a silver/gold card (or is it gold only these days).

Even in Crown, the self-serve coffee machines have limited uses if you earned a complimentary drink e.g. all of twice in 24 hours for base tier and $2 each after that (and good luck if the machine actually works, the touch panel responds properly instead of being stuck on black tea (which seems to be the default choice if the panel is frozen), a paper cup comes out (and doesn't fall through the holder and land on the floor, which also counts as the machine finishing its job and taking your money even if it didn't pour anything), and the end product actually still has coffee/chocolate/tea/milk/sugar etc. in it).

I've been around pokies for nearly 20 years and watched Tatts Pokies (and their successor Intralot), Tabaret (Tabcorp) and Crown alike go from awesome (early 2000s) to OK (late 2000s) to mediocre (early 2010s) to utter garbage (late 2010s) to literally unplayable (2020-2021 so far).

2007: Vic govt killed off all machines which knew what a $100 note was
2010 (or was it 2012? I forget): Vic govt killed off all machines with a maximum bet of more than $5 in local venues (the proposed $1 max bets would have killed the pokies industry entirely so it was never implemented) - unfortunately it's a hard cap unlike Crown, so the maximum credits per line is tied to the number of lines the game has, so we end up with silly multipliers like 3, 4 or 5 credits per line on 5c games (30, 25 or 20 lines respectively) and no multiplier at all on $1 games (even though 2x2 lines and 5x1 line would be perfectly legal, it's not possible unlike at the casino, where the max bet is still $10 as well)
2015: Gaming industry moved towards huge five-digit progressive jackpots on games, making them theoretically legal due to the minimum payout percentage (over 4 billion spins of course) but paying virtually nothing in the long run; these can eat a $50 in five minutes but some lucky person will walk away with the $13664.52 jackpot and never see another grand jackpot in their lifetime unless they are a high roller
2020: Vic govt introduced a COVID-19 social distancing restriction disabling every second machine (Crown and some local venues made the most of it by moving the 1c machines around so they'd be disabled in between the more expensive/more volatile games, making unsuspecting players bet higher and lose more except for the lucky few that fluked the big one) - hopefully this is reversed soon, getting fed up of the coronavirus ruining everything
2021: Vic local machines move to TITO (tickets instead of hopper pay just like the casino, so no more cups full of $1 coins), only 20 years after NSW's machines supported such a thing (and with Crown's machines making the move last decade), meaning even more machines are to be killed off (say goodbye to all the classic games that weren't crippled by big-dollar jackpots) - BTW, apparently pokie tickets are not compatible between venues, unlike TAB tickets for example

[knewdoors]

Ebay is FINISHED

[repentatleisure1952]

---

@knewdoors wrote:

Ebay is FINISHED

---

I can't be...

1. You are here.

2. You have 195 listings.

3. You still have the ability to post false positive feedback.

4. Yoy are still able to post churlish replies to others.

[fudgerick]

Absolutely terrible.I am still waiting for a payment for 4 days this is not acceptable.Paypal straight in and out within the day.please bring Paypal use back.Payments from companies to banks to me is quicker than this.I am going to complain to the Ombudsman if  this keeps up no way to run a business.Stop changing things E Bay and remember it was people like me who allowed you to be and  either create a E Bay for people like me  instead of these big companies.No wonder people use Facebook and Etsy.Sold without managed payments needs to be we need to have a choice either managed payments  or Paypal.

[natrow2]

Doubt it, there would be people in here reading all the **bleep** about them, it is what any sensible establishment would do, not saying they care or act on it. I have only lost the ability to get the proceeds from my sale instantly.

[natrow2]

Its even monitored for swear words by some programme.