Onselling on Facebook when your item has just been listed?

[connydeylen]

Someone alerted me to the fact that someone was selling our items on facebook and their website for twice the price. I took a look and they were using our photos and stories without asking our permission (keeping the handmade bit  but deleting connydeylen). And then I realized they were listing them as soon as we started an auction. They waited  and as soon as one of their customers showed interest they placed a bid. This person claims to be a Physchic and her customer base is basically people who have recently lost a loved one. I am absolutely seething and have blocked them as bidders. But are there otherways to put this con artist out of action?

[4green2000]

Was NOT aimed at you cq_tech..Just the forum on the whole.Dont know why it came up as "in reply to cq_tech"..??Must of clicked the wrong thingy.??

Anyways,reading the WHOLE forum made my day...

But i still wish my bills would GO AWAY...

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@4green2000 wrote:

Was feeling a bit down this morning thinking of all these new bills that just came in the mail..

I thought this morning i need a bit of cheering up so i was about to google "funny jokes" but thought id check ebay forums first.

Well i no longer need to google "funny jokes"...I feel better now..

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[springyzone]

I would be upset too if someone just copied my photos and descriptions.

There are some practical things, already suggested, that you should do, i think.

1. Watermark your photos right across them in a spot where they cannot be cropped out.

2. Sew a little tag inside the items, with your name or contact details on it.

Would I contact the buyer? Possibly not as they may just change ID anyway. But if i did, I would mention that it had come to your notice they were copying your photos and descriptions and that was not acceptable.

They have every right to onsell your goods but not do a copy/paste job on everything.

Here are some other suggestions, not sure if anyone has said these.

1. Put up the ebay price. If they are selling at double the price for someone else, you are charging too low.

2. Open your own facebook business, use some of the same key words from the other seller so that anyone doing a search will see your items. I think someone else said list them slightly under the other person's price. Also say in your ad something along the lines of-Buy from the actual maker. prominently state you make these. I don't think the other person will do that, they haven't lied at all in their listing by the sounds of it, just stated the items are hand made. Which they are.

You need to go the extra bit though and make it clear YOU make them.

I am on another forum where someone made this comment so it could be worth looking into. Good luck.

with FB if you have a product to sell you can target your audience and area... say "Australia" ... and say.. 50 to 60 Year old people... I think you can also target male or female...

then... you can select your budget... your budget will dictate how many people will see your advertising..
say you spend $25 which will target around 5000 people... spend $200 and target 50,000 people...

its dead easy, takes only minutes to do and you don't have to talk to any scabby advertising reps

[digital*ghost]

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@colic2bullsgirlore wrote:

misleading by omission....lmao ..did you read your own link??

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Did you? 

More importantly, did you read my post? It doesn't look like it.

I said the copyright theft was of the images and description.

Then I posted the link to the IP site and said "know your rights, and what you can do to protect them" and that conny's items should be protected.

Do you understand now?

[colic2bullsgirlore]

Ye olde Norwegian witch poem

I'm a Norwegian Kitchen Witch,

Riding on my broom,

Love and affection,

I'll bring to this room,

Pots boiling over are a thing of the past,

With my kind of magic,

Good fortune will last,

I'll keep burnt food and bad coffee away,

For I'm the good luck kitchen witch,

And I'm here to stay.

http://seasonofshadows.com/blog/kitchen-witches/

https://www.google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#q=I%27m+a+Norwegian+Kitchen+Witch%2C++Riding+on+my+broom%2C++L...

Pot.....kettle ......... black

disgraceful plagiarism from Connie and Lantia ( but I bet Lantia already knew I was going to say that that... given her profession  )

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[theboulevard14]

Digital is correct, copyright is automatic in Australia, you DO NOT have to register it, apply for it or label it as being so.  Your computer automatically provides date evidence these days, of when work was first created.  Trademarks and Patents are completey and utterley different to copyright, I suggest you google the terms.

It is one thing to resell a brand item ie. an used or unwanted Iphone, and an entirely different situation to sell items as a commercial enterprise.  This person on facebook sounds like she is intentionally trying to profit from someone else's intellectual property.  That is not legal or moral. 

I'm a printer - I can print as many shirts as I want with Mice on them and sell them .  I can also print myself one MICKEY MOUSE tshirt to wear myself.  If I do more than one, or not for my own personal use, or take money for that tshirt, I am breaking the law.  The person on facebook can sell one or two of Conny's dolls if she decides she does not want them any longer.  But to purchase several and profit from Conny's creativity, without permission, is illegal. Because what Conny is selling is intangible, not just a simple nut or bolt.  Those dolls are more than the sum of their parts, what makes them unique, is Conny's own personal input to those simple parts. Conny can sell those few dollars worth of doll parts for much more than their simple $ value.  I could make one of those dolls for about $5-10 in materials, but what makes the dolls worth the $72 or more that Conny sells them for, is her unique creativity and intellectual property.  No-one can or should profit from that $62 worth of unique imput from Conny

[thecatspjs]

Theres a whole other issue of selling goods that are not yours to sell at the time nor is supply secure.

[thecatspjs]

What the buyer of the OPs is doing by advertising and selling goods they do not have clear title to and do not have a trade agreement for supply is not legal.

[aps1080]

I could make one of those dolls for about $5-10 in materials, but what makes the dolls worth the $72 or more that Conny sells them for, is her unique creativity and intellectual property.  No-one can or should profit from that $62 worth of unique imput from Conny

If Conny is selling them for $22 and I can buy them from her and sell them in a shop, on facebook for $60 - 70,

then I would, if interested.

It seems a few people reckon Conny is selling them too cheaply.

If you AIM LOW, you will more often than not only get low.

Better to Start pricing high and drop down if you don't sell many but on the other hand, a price point of $22 might make people think they are cheap.

[4green2000]

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@theboulevard14 wrote:

Digital is correct, copyright is automatic in Australia, you DO NOT have to register it, apply for it or label it as being so.  Your computer automatically provides date evidence these days, of when work was first created.  Trademarks and Patents are completey and utterley different to copyright, I suggest you google the terms.

It is one thing to resell a brand item ie. an used or unwanted Iphone, and an entirely different situation to sell items as a commercial enterprise.  This person on facebook sounds like she is intentionally trying to profit from someone else's intellectual property.  That is not legal or moral. 

I'm a printer - I can print as many shirts as I want with Mice on them and sell them .  I can also print myself one MICKEY MOUSE tshirt to wear myself.  If I do more than one, or not for my own personal use, or take money for that tshirt, I am breaking the law.  The person on facebook can sell one or two of Conny's dolls if she decides she does not want them any longer.  But to purchase several and profit from Conny's creativity, without permission, is illegal. Because what Conny is selling is intangible, not just a simple nut or bolt.  Those dolls are more than the sum of their parts, what makes them unique, is Conny's own personal input to those simple parts. Conny can sell those few dollars worth of doll parts for much more than their simple $ value.  I could make one of those dolls for about $5-10 in materials, but what makes the dolls worth the $72 or more that Conny sells them for, is her unique creativity and intellectual property.  No-one can or should profit from that $62 worth of unique imput from Conny

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Illegal ?..My mate Allan make leather belts.

He found one buyer (that buys his belts in bulk) selling them online for a profit. NO permission no nothing.

He said he aint worried cause they (the resellers) are making him money in which he cant even keep up the demand.

So who owns the belts once paid for? I always thought when i pay for something its all mine and i do as i wish with it.

[aps1080]

Half the problem in this world is people seem to object to others making a profit.