on 08-12-2014 01:58 AM
Someone alerted me to the fact that someone was selling our items on facebook and their website for twice the price. I took a look and they were using our photos and stories without asking our permission (keeping the handmade bit but deleting connydeylen). And then I realized they were listing them as soon as we started an auction. They waited and as soon as one of their customers showed interest they placed a bid. This person claims to be a Physchic and her customer base is basically people who have recently lost a loved one. I am absolutely seething and have blocked them as bidders. But are there otherways to put this con artist out of action?
10-12-2014 08:48 AM - edited 10-12-2014 08:49 AM
When you list an item on eBay, you are asked if you wish to allow others to use your photographs, and if you agree, then they go into the central database for use by other sellers, and by definition, into the public domain. If you don't agree, then because those images are your own intellectual property, they automatically become copyrighted to you personally, and nobody has the right to use those images anywhere or at any time without your express permission.
Sure, in the modern electronic era it's dead easy to copy somebody else's intellectual property, whether it be a photograph,a poem, a story, or whatever, but just because you can steal it at the press of a button or a couple of keys, that doesn't make it right or legal. Before the advent of VCRs, DVRs, PCs etc., if you wanted a copy of a photograph from a newspaper, you had to pay for it, and rightly so.
These days we think nothing of recording a movie or TV show to watch later, but just because we're not prosecuted for it doesn't make it any less illegal. If I copy a movie from the net then charge people a fee to watch it, I'm guilty of the theft of the producer's intellectual property and profiting from it, even though you clearly seem to think it's perfectly OK for anybody to do it. Well I'm afraid the law disagrees with you.
on 10-12-2014 10:30 AM
@hotrodvideo wrote:
Bo who . Reading this post I have to laugh , copy right on photos come on ! Thousands of adds on eBay use stock photos and even watermark them with their seller id,s I bet they don't go cap in hand to the original owner of the photo asking permission to use the photo and same said for item descriptions. Even eBay encourages you to use the photos and item description from a central data base . In my experience not worth loosing sleep ove this one . An as for intellectual property dosent look that intelligent
Ah yes... The old "heaps of people do it, so what does it matter" argument.
I also think it's interesting that the OP's reaction is A) being reduced to purely emotional, and B) being derided and dismissed because it's being interpreted as primarily emotional.
What a joke.
John - you are welcome to contact me via PM, if you click on my user ID, you'll be taken to my forum profile, and there'll be a "contact member" button there. I just need to mention that my own store went a bit crazy last night and I have a long day ahead, so it may take me a little while to be able to read and reply any messages, but I will reply.
on 10-12-2014 10:44 AM
Maybe you should read Johns last post again
10-12-2014 10:52 AM - edited 10-12-2014 10:53 AM
@robinsonmarineparts wrote:Maybe you should read Johns last post again
I read it more than once, I don't need to read it again.
I never said there wasn't emotion involved here, I said I found it interesting that people were focussing on the emotional aspect and criticising it.
Besides which, my personal opinion regarding someone being ok with their items being resold unless they don't like the person doing the reselling is unequivocally irrelevant, I'm now purely interested in offering practical advice for the OP(s) to sell their items in a way that they're happy with....if I can.
on 10-12-2014 11:11 AM
on 10-12-2014 07:26 PM
Not replying to Cats, just replying on the last message.
Looking at the prices of some of her things, I think I need to seriously raise the price of some of my items!!! $50 for a small lump of ShorlTourmaline? Yeah right! I'm starting to sell of some of my mineral collection that I have multiples of (to make room for ones I don't have), including some Tourmaline and there is NO WAY on this earth I'd get $50 for a piece that small!
Some of her other stones and things are far and away way higher than I'd ever get on eBay. Even far more than the sellers who get lots of bids and higher prices than me. Maybe I need to start selling on facebook!
on 10-12-2014 10:47 PM
on 11-12-2014 12:28 AM
I have a feeling someone decided to get their hands dirty and do some renovations on facebook?
on 11-12-2014 12:31 AM
You might of missed this bit - " If someone wants to onsell them they can buy them on Ebay we just don’t wholesale anymore. If someone ones wants to buy in bulk (for less than the Ebay price) we are not interested just don’t have the time."
Hey, what can i say. ROFLMAF ha ha
So John doesn't give a toot who buys there items.
Some ones item's have disappered. lol
11-12-2014 12:47 AM - edited 11-12-2014 12:48 AM
@robinsonmarineparts wrote:You might of missed this bit - " If someone wants to onsell them they can buy them on Ebay we just don’t wholesale anymore. If someone ones wants to buy in bulk (for less than the Ebay price) we are not interested just don’t have the time."
Hey, what can i say. ROFLMAF ha ha
So John doesn't give a toot who buys there items.
Some ones item's have disappered. lol
Nope, didn't miss a thing.
I just don't care, even when it's further clarified/disclaimed in another portion of the post.
^I don't mean that to come across as rude or argumentative, I do respect your position, even if I haven't agreed with everything you've said, I made a pointed comment in my previous post, suffice to say that I don't think anything I may or may not think about that topic is relevant to what my primary aim is.