on 05-11-2014 12:10 PM
Hello to all,
I have read many times on the boards that if the fake is susspected that one doesn't have to send it back as it's illegal!
What a load of cods wallop
How does a recipient of a fake item thinks it got to him/her in the first place?
Through the post, in most cases. Australia Post delivered it OK!
Post office doesn't care/wouldn't know what is fake, all parcels are sealed - and besides, it's not their job to police that sort of thing.
Advice given to buyers here is so misleading, a great cop out - not having to go to any trouble of returning someone else's property, fake or not - if full refund is promised or even already issued.
I have also spoken to PP - their attitude is the same.
If the buyer claims a fake item and doesn't have anything official to support that claim - they'll have to return it to the seller in order to get the refund. If the seller agrees, of course.
They also are not willing to act as a police - to determine what is fake and what isn't - nor they are in too much of a hurry to tell anyone to distroy someone else's proerty rather than to post it back - as some sellers want the item back even if it is a fake.
Then the rights owner can take it up with them, not the PO or PP.
The only thing that the PO told me it would worry them is people posting flamable or otherwise hazardous items/material.
And finally, if the item has to be returned to an overseas country, going through the customs - again, no problem at all, singular items, or small quantities get here - and they can go back just the same.
Customs guys wouldn't give it a time of day - unless is a shippping container load! (Straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak)
on 05-11-2014 02:27 PM
I knew of a person who decided to import a smallish amount of fake designer bags and sell them on a Facebook page. Wasn't long before she was shut down, her shipment was intercepted by customs and destroyed. Just a small scale 1 person affair.
on 05-11-2014 02:37 PM
@fixnwear wrote:digital,
As I said, that means if it is illegal to own, carry, possess....whatever, Australia Post prohibit it from being posted. It's illegal to possess fakes, regardless of how they came to be in one's possesstion, ergo they can not be posted.
That's rubbish and you know it!
And the PO would know what you are posting and or deem it's a fake - how?
You can't possibly be serious....
It's there in black and white, and there is no room for individual interpretation (one of the few where there isn't) - it's not a matter of how would they know. For heaven's sake, people get away with breaking laws and/or policies every. single. day. because the relevant company or upholders of the law simply don't know that the law / policy has been broken.
But that's not the point. The point is that the law / policy has been broken / breached regardless of whether it's to the knowledge of someone who can/will do something about it, and I'm saying it is not a good thing to advocate breaking laws / policies just because you will likely get away with it.
on 05-11-2014 03:07 PM
I suspect this thread is a fake, and so shouldn't have been posted.
Just sayin...
05-11-2014 03:13 PM - edited 05-11-2014 03:14 PM
( not funny to condone dodgy business practices/behaviour though, which the OP seems to do)
on 05-11-2014 05:23 PM
DG, you stated in effect.....
"You will find that if it is illegal to possess someting, it's illegal to post it."
That sounds fair but can you cite evidence that 'possessing a counterfeit item
in Australia' is illegal.
on 05-11-2014 05:33 PM
I believe that posting fakes is OK by Australia Post.
Perhaps someone skimmed through the guidelines and
spotted Illegally Dangerous.
That newspaper article was interesting.
The destroyed violin.
Legally speaking isn't PayPal destroying evidence ???
on 05-11-2014 05:35 PM
on 05-11-2014 05:45 PM
Regarding AusPost rules.
I can't find any reference to illegal goods.
http://auspost.com.au/media/documents/dangerous-prohibited-goods-packaging-post-guide.pdf
05-11-2014 05:56 PM - edited 05-11-2014 05:57 PM
@Anonymous wrote:DG, you stated in effect.....
"You will find that if it is illegal to possess someting, it's illegal to post it."
That sounds fair but can you cite evidence that 'possessing a counterfeit item
in Australia' is illegal.
AFAIK a person buying a fake item for personal use isn't a criminal offense. However, my point was (imperfectly made, obviously) and for the purposes of this thread, it actually doesn't matter - fake items are illegal, and AP's T&C's prohibit illegal items.
on 05-11-2014 06:21 PM
Here's the thing DG.
I can't find any reference to 'illegal' goods.
Maybe it's there but I just can't see it.
http://auspost.com.au/media/documents/dangerous-prohibited-goods-packaging-post-guide.pdf