on 05-11-2014 12:10 PM
Hello to all,
I have read many times on the boards that if the fake is susspected that one doesn't have to send it back as it's illegal!
What a load of cods wallop
How does a recipient of a fake item thinks it got to him/her in the first place?
Through the post, in most cases. Australia Post delivered it OK!
Post office doesn't care/wouldn't know what is fake, all parcels are sealed - and besides, it's not their job to police that sort of thing.
Advice given to buyers here is so misleading, a great cop out - not having to go to any trouble of returning someone else's property, fake or not - if full refund is promised or even already issued.
I have also spoken to PP - their attitude is the same.
If the buyer claims a fake item and doesn't have anything official to support that claim - they'll have to return it to the seller in order to get the refund. If the seller agrees, of course.
They also are not willing to act as a police - to determine what is fake and what isn't - nor they are in too much of a hurry to tell anyone to distroy someone else's proerty rather than to post it back - as some sellers want the item back even if it is a fake.
Then the rights owner can take it up with them, not the PO or PP.
The only thing that the PO told me it would worry them is people posting flamable or otherwise hazardous items/material.
And finally, if the item has to be returned to an overseas country, going through the customs - again, no problem at all, singular items, or small quantities get here - and they can go back just the same.
Customs guys wouldn't give it a time of day - unless is a shippping container load! (Straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak)
06-11-2014 06:38 PM - edited 06-11-2014 06:40 PM
@i-love-my-sheep wrote:
If I bought one, with a certificate of authenticity, would I be allowed to sell it at a later date and also be legally allowed to post it, given that it is a replica?
There is a big difference between an official replica and a fake product. Replica doesn't = fake or counterfeit, I've tried to go through all this before - ever bought or seen an offically licensed replica of a famous sport's jersey? They are replicas, but because the company who makes them have paid for the license to do so, they are not fake. What makes something fake is that the person or company producing it does not have the license to by the copyright / trademark holder, not just the fact that it is a copy of something.
Some things don't need a license - commercial or otherwise - in order to reproduce because they are in the public domain and therefore do not have any IP protection at all.
on 06-11-2014 07:22 PM
Very good! I do make it very clear in both the photos and the description that they aren't original coins, so if anyone bought one for less than $10 for a 'proof' coin, thinking it was real, they'd be nuts. I think by law replica coins have to have 'copy' stamped on them, but don't quote me on that. I'm sure I read it somewhere though, ages ago.
on 06-11-2014 07:47 PM
Yes Digi, an auction house would be happy to sell on an official replica. If I was planning a sale of mint Mint 😉 on eBay, I would run it past them first so they don't get spooked by "replica" and pull the listing. Just me overthinking things I guess 😮
on 06-11-2014 07:59 PM
@amber-eyed-girl wrote:Yes Digi, an auction house would be happy to sell on an official replica. If I was planning a sale of mint Mint 😉 on eBay, I would run it past them first so they don't get spooked by "replica" and pull the listing. Just me overthinking things I guess 😮
Replica is definitely a volatile word to use in a title, because eBay (or their bots) do often pick it up and assume "fake". If anyone has a legal replica item, I would suggest using "licensed reproduction", AFAIK, that hasn't been met with eBay's official (but probably not licensed) doom machine.
on 06-11-2014 08:34 PM
hmmmmm
(starts the drawings for a doom-bot to mow the lawn and get the weeds)