didnt list anything this weekend as no $1 weekends

raron2
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didnt list anything this weekend as no $1 weekends

fees too high for me otherwise as a small time seller

the fee on postage is particurally annoying, I have no choice but to pass this on to buyers

which I am sure turns some byers off, less sales for ebay as well as me

havent been getting the monthly no final value fee or listing fee either

which was fine until $1 weekends stopped

feels like small time sellers arent important to ebay

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@countessalmirena wrote:

Chameleon, it's this terrible condition of mine... sesquipedalianism. It is agony for me when I'm to write something with a strict word limit.

 

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Countess! Have you been hacked????? A one line comment? What's wrong? Have you not had your morning go go juice yet?

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k1ooo, I have failed, my liege.

 

I neglected to include an historical reference.

 

I hurriedly offer up for your delectation the following in the hopes that it will mitigate the offence.

 

 

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Sargon II ruled Assyria between 721-705 BC and was almost certainly an usurper. One major clue is that the name "Sargon" in Akkadian means โ€œlegitimate kingโ€, a claim which it's hard to see a legitimate king in the 8th century BC would feel the need to proclaim in his name unless his ascension were indeed a dodgy piece of "kill the king to take the throne myself"-ism.

(Sargon was a genuine name, but an old name going back to the first king of Assyria more than 1200 years earlier, and that king probably took his name from the very first ruler of Assyria going back even further to Sargon the Great, 24th century BC. By the 8th century BC it was not a name in use, which makes its sudden appropriation by Sargon II all the murkier.)

I am certainly not comfortable accepting Sargon II as a son of Tiglath-Pileser III. It is more likely than not that Sargon appropriated the Assyrian kingly bloodline for his own, without right.) Shalmaneser V (ruled 726-722 BC) is attributed in biblical texts with the destruction of Samaria (which we can date to c. 722 BC) but the Annals of Sargon II (discovered in excavations in the 19th century) claim it for Sargon. This is very probably an usurpation of deeds, in keeping with the usurper's need to legitimise his reign, position and deeds.

 

 

There! Dodgy murder and misdeeds in the Assyrian Empire!

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I won't comment (much) on the "pretty" bit, although I definitely think I was more attractive at 21 than at 14...

I was the one refusing to admit to short-sightedness for more than a year!

I was a bit of a smarty pants, no doubt...

 

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I like usurpers, they are my favourite kind of surper!

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tippy*toes, you are so right. I have ONLY JUST MADE my pot of coffee.

 

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(Also, I spent most of the night in the Emergency department. How do I love illness... Let me count the ways... No, I'm not coming up with a way.)

 

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ED......on a weekend.......ghastly! You must have been really crook! I hope you are on the mend now, and feel better now you've made your morning go go juice.

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@gumleaf_goodies wrote:

@brerrabbit585 wrote:

I'd like to know the definition of a small seller.  I definitely don't consider someone with hundreds of listings to be a small seller, yet many think they're entitled to more listings than those who pay for stores but they don't consider stores to be small sellers.  I really can't see the logic in that!


As I have already replied to another poster - my definition of a small seller is not based on how many listings they have, but how much profit they make.


I'm not talking about the ATO definition of a smaller seller, but ebay's definition.  They're two completely different things.

 

If you hire a space at a market you pay for the amount of space you occupy.  Nobody gives you a discount if you don't sell much. 

 

If you hire a 20 x 10 metre store in a shopping centre you're not going to get it for the same price as the 10 x 10 metre store next door, and the shopping centre isn't going to reduce the rent just because your shop is full of items that don't sell.

 

If you have 600 listings on ebay and they're very slow to sell, but someone with a basic store has 600 listings and they sell ten times as much as you, who do you think ebay is going to favour?  The listings take up the same amount of space on the server and cost the same amount for site maintenance, but you think the store sellers should pay your share - on top of paying for their store subscription.

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I think the term 'health check' has about the same meaning as when I go to a doctor.  I've never found a doctor that has actually given me advice that helps me, but I've healed plenty of things myself from doing my own research.  The last time I asked a doctor to test my blood pressure I was asked "Why, is there something wrong?"  Smiley Frustrated

 

@ chameleon, they can't hide from the ATO by not having a store.  Ebay declares the totals for non-stores as well.  I'd imagine a few people have had some nasty shocks over the years.

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@brerrabbit585 wrote:

I think the term 'health check' has about the same meaning as when I go to a doctor.  I've never found a doctor that has actually given me advice that helps me, but I've healed plenty of things myself from doing my own research.  The last time I asked a doctor to test my blood pressure I was asked "Why, is there something wrong?"  Smiley Frustrated

 

@ chameleon, they can't hide from the ATO by not having a store.  Ebay declares the totals for non-stores as well.  I'd imagine a few people have had some nasty shocks over the years.


I am aware of that and also the fact that ebay include multiple connected id's run by the same person. I was thinking more along the lines of a seller who may consider their turnover marginal and '' just a hobby ". I probably shouldnt go into details here ( just encourages them )  but whether they have a store or not could have an impact on whether the ATO regards some-one as a hobby seller or micro business.

 

Any business with 600 clothing listings in multiple sizes, store or not is unlikely to be just cleaning out their own clothes and so is running a business.  They are liable to lodge their income on a tax return and with Centrelink if applicable. I have a store with only 250 listings and relatively modest sales, but that one reports to the ATO same as the bigger stores.

 

I can well remember last time the ATO reduced the threshold for ebay to report sellers with $10,000 or more turnover. There was a mad scramble and numerous threads on the forums about how to find sales figures, how to report to the ATO etc. Trouble was the ATO made it retrospective.

 

It might pay to keep in mind that the ATO have lowered the threshold for mandatory reporting several times. Originally it was $70,000 and is now $10,000. With modern computer data matching services I suspect in time the ATO & Centrelink may require every sellers sales data, regardless of the amount.

 

I got a bit of a suprise when I did my tax a few weeks ago. My accountant made sure to declare a figure of $3.00 interest from a very small bank account, as she mentioned the ATO computers are now data matching even those small figures with tax returns. So sellers who turn over several thousand dollars per year on ebay may get a shock when the ATO next requests a meeting with ebay management.

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@every member that reads here

 

the ATO is not interested in how much profit you say you make on eBay listings, they are interested in turnover, and you then have deductions like stock purchases, listing fees, fvf fees, postage paid, materials to wrap and pack items, other costs associated with running your โ€œbusinessโ€ eBay activities.  If you buy things to onsell on eBay then you must include your eBay selling activity in your tax return.

 

This means that many members with hundreds of listings would reach that $10,000 mandatory reporting/crossmatching threshold and maybe not realise it, especially if they are lax in keeping track of their sales etc.

 

Anyone listing more than the free 40 listings per month should really be seeking advice from a tax accountant and not these boards.  Members can let you know how they handle the tax issues, but only you will know your activity intimately.

 

Things like running multiple eBay accounts makes sense . . . . . one for business/selling and one for personal eBaying not related to selling activity.  If you are selling items from around the house then use a personal eBay account. If you are selling off your โ€˜collectionโ€™ that you have built up over many years then get professional advice.   Having multiple PayPal accounts and a designated bank account for business selling related transactions also makes sense.  Just makes it easier for you and/or your tax agent/accountant to keep track of your business eBaying activity to the satisfaction of the ATO.

 

Some members may think that if they donโ€™t have an ABN that they are not a business.  Again, not true!  An ABN is required if turnover is greater than $75,000, and may be required in other circumstances like claiming back GST paid in business eBay selling activities.

 

IF any member thinks they will not declare their eBay selling activity and run the risk with the ATO then maybe they should think again.  If the tax office catch you this year they can and probably will audit your last five tax returns.  I donโ€™t know that anyone who would welcome that.

 

**disclaimer** I am not giving financial advice, just posting on a public forum.  I have no formal accounting qualifications or tax preparation experience.  The posts I make are based on wide reading, including the ATO website and related eBay pages and these boards when members post about their tax/accounting experiences.  Any member who is not sure about their tax obligations needs to contact the ATO or a tax accountant to ensure compliance.

 

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