let me explain some parts of the law

[joethenuts]

a lot of posters keep thinking that if its written in the law ,thats it.  well wrong ,ask any solicitor.

if that was the case we would not need any courts.

a law is written for instance law 1.   then there is only if  a  or   f   or section  bla , does not ocur.

lets talk about photos in a post office, once you hand over your letters and as soon as the postman stamps them ,they are deemed to be the property of the federal gov. once you touch or take a photo ,then theres privacy laws.  its simple its not yours anymore.

we also have posters complaining about paypal taking money out of your account when there is a problem.

read your contract with them , you agreed to there policy  ,if you dont agree dont sign up or take the contract to a solicitor. 

just because something is said in the law , companies have agreements with them  .  like the bank on charge backs  the law states a bank cant take money out of another banks client.  but the banks have an agreement that allows that.  and we all know that happens.

look at the law about porn movies , i still have had nobody answere that.  its simple the law states porn movies can only be sold in canberra.    have a look around  most suburbs have an adult shop.   i would say there is an agreement with the law.  these shops are not hidden , some are the size of small supermarkets.

in fact a couple of months ago i won an auction on ebay for some new steel paint tins and lids , when she gave me the pick up details  it was to an adult bookstore , i then looked at the  item number  in case i bid on the wrong line, but all correct. anyway i drive to the loading bay ,she opened up the roller door and my eyes nearly popped out , as i was loading the boxes , i did not ask why they had new empty paint tins , but i did ask why the girl on the corner wearing  just underwear was smiling at me ,she said thats a blow up doll , yes but whats her name.     lol

[dylan11235813]

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@joethenuts wrote:

to answere the paint mixing it is no different than you go to a reastaurant and order a steak  and when the order comes out ,can you decide to walk out whithout paying, paint if i make a mistake then thats my problem  , but if you come in and order a hog bristol 1/4 in a dulux 4 litre can and that is what i give you with the correct formula which is printed on the can , then yes you own it ,what next  going into a petrol station put $50 of petrol in your tank and then go and pay and say i only wanted $30 of petrol  or i have no money

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yes

[dylan11235813]

for the steak

[joethenuts]

anyway a very interesting topic  . what have we learned [nothing] lol

we have posters saying once its lodged it belongs to aus post

we have posters saying it allways belongs to the buyer

we have posters saying it still belongs to the sender until its delivered

we have posters saying it belongs to the sender 

at the end of the day we all loose.lol

[pennyforum14]

Yes Joe, but apart from late night hours, most petrol stations still allow the customer to fill their tank before paying.

Clearly, you are simply going to continue to throw up the same arguments regardless of what any of us say so I think I'll leave you to your own devices, or maybe you will just keep arguing the point with yourself (has been known to happen).

Have a nice day,

[dylan11235813]

no one comes second, that is the idea .I don't think anyone said anything of the sort. I don't think the PO should be allowing a photo of the mail but it can be done.

[joethenuts]

you have a nice day, by the way dont mention your postoffice , as you could have an influx of scamers going there and having there item lodged then take a photo ,then say forgot my wallet at home ,   mmmmmm

[dylan11235813]

I usually walk in with about 10 and stand there while they put stamps on. It's quite fun

[cathyjoyjoy]

No we don't always lose.

Yes, we can follow the letter of the law and whilst we are checking that we have those "legal letters" and "legal words" correct ...... there could be a simple solution.  I'm not a legal person, but often the law looks favourably at good intent and good motivation .... I think, just my opionion (and hope I guess).

And if I lived in a small town and knew the AP van driver ..... and could forsee if I can just possibly retrieve that parcel ....... reduce the grief .... I'd be doing that as I feel many others would also.  We deal with this type of situation every day ... classic example is when, as a driver, you might swerve or brake suddenly to avoid an accident.

[joethenuts]

oh cathy i hope you are not compairing having an accident which could hurt someone   to  an item going to the wrong address.

your right as i have been saying the law is not simple its not cut and dry, its a bit like law 45c  can only work if law56t is in place .

only a couple months ago over 500 or so parking fines were cancelled,from the gpo.in melbourne , all 500 were parked ilegally but the council officer who signs of on them or sends the fines out was away and a staff menber did it that day , and some smart lawyer picked up on it , and the person away was a sworn in person to stamp and send these fines , if you wernt sworn in ,you have no authority to send out the fines . 

[dylan11235813]

is it normal for 500 cars to be parked illegally in any case?