let me explain some parts of the law

[joethenuts]

a lot of posters keep thinking that if its written in the law ,thats it.  well wrong ,ask any solicitor.

if that was the case we would not need any courts.

a law is written for instance law 1.   then there is only if  a  or   f   or section  bla , does not ocur.

lets talk about photos in a post office, once you hand over your letters and as soon as the postman stamps them ,they are deemed to be the property of the federal gov. once you touch or take a photo ,then theres privacy laws.  its simple its not yours anymore.

we also have posters complaining about paypal taking money out of your account when there is a problem.

read your contract with them , you agreed to there policy  ,if you dont agree dont sign up or take the contract to a solicitor. 

just because something is said in the law , companies have agreements with them  .  like the bank on charge backs  the law states a bank cant take money out of another banks client.  but the banks have an agreement that allows that.  and we all know that happens.

look at the law about porn movies , i still have had nobody answere that.  its simple the law states porn movies can only be sold in canberra.    have a look around  most suburbs have an adult shop.   i would say there is an agreement with the law.  these shops are not hidden , some are the size of small supermarkets.

in fact a couple of months ago i won an auction on ebay for some new steel paint tins and lids , when she gave me the pick up details  it was to an adult bookstore , i then looked at the  item number  in case i bid on the wrong line, but all correct. anyway i drive to the loading bay ,she opened up the roller door and my eyes nearly popped out , as i was loading the boxes , i did not ask why they had new empty paint tins , but i did ask why the girl on the corner wearing  just underwear was smiling at me ,she said thats a blow up doll , yes but whats her name.     lol

[k1ooo-slr-sales]

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@joethenuts wrote:

hi bake  not sure how to do that   took me 4 months to work out how to put a picture up   if you click on users with his id name  tall bearded  you will get to there

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I'll help you joe.  You just click on the URL and then use "copy" and then "paste" to get the link into your posts.  The keyboard shortcuts on Internet explorer are "control-C" for copy, and "control-V" for paste.

When you click on the URL the part shown in yellow at the top of the pic below will be blue.  That's how you know that the URL/Link has been selected.

If you try this you will be able to show the thread/posts that bake wants to see, and then we can all see.

[k1ooo-slr-sales]

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@joethenuts wrote:

sorry for my delay i had to fix upa few things   , i have always had a copy but its a very well respected law man on these posts , which i used to niggle with him  and everybody told me and prob you  that he should know not me  anyway its the [tall bearded]  post 404 message 44

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your very well respected law man has offered the following on the ownership issue of items handed over to a carrier such as Aust Post

[joethenuts]

he dont shoot the messanger   its not my writing 

[joethenuts]

look if you dont believe tall bearded1  thats fine , i never did either , but for respect to all the posters out there ,who were complaining that he new all the laws and i dont, thats fine . i dont care.

as long as i have been saying for a long time . you are not allowed to photo an item after it has been lodged at a post office which lots of sellers do   as it is not yours.   have a nice day ,i think its going to be hot up there were you are.

[bakeandfry]

So if the buyer owns it, can i take a photo of the article when it has been lodged, so i can prove to paypal i posted it, seeing as paypal gave me the buyers details, so no privacy law broken, i can relay the required information back to them as long as i uphold the buyers privacy and not relay buyers privacy so that anyone can see it. Does that make sence?

[joethenuts]

simple  answere  no   . no   and  no    . no diference than i come up to the counter and me take photos of your item you brought in , we both dont own it,

would you be allowed at the back room of the postoffice and take photos of all the parcels there  ,no  your right to that iten has finished.  also it can can be aleged as tampering .

[joethenuts]

to davewill    read it better only when the buyer asks the seller to delivery it. you cant send it by pidgeon or what ever .

also a lot of sellers put standard postage , which does not matter but what does that or could mean.

[bakeandfry]

If you took a photo of the item i was lodging you would be breaching my buyers privacy, and i would have every right to get your photo deleted, you dont need a photo of the item im posting, its not yours, its the buyers, if i let you keep the photo whats to stop you from publishing the photo on the internet or other medium?

[joethenuts]

ok this is how it works let say me  joe . i order an item online , and i cant stand being red carded because my post office is in a dam shopping centre , if it was in a shopping strip no problems. so instead of the seller posting my parcel . i will ask the seller for a convient time for either i pick up or my courier to pick up , as then i only have to go up the road and pick up , an easier pick up for me.

at the end of the day its the buyers item ,if he wants santa to pick it up or mickey-mouse ,we have buyers come by bike  tram only, one we had a electric wheelchair, what was the odds of that.

[5kazam]

When all is said and done Joe, does it really matter who has responsibility for the item when photos are taken.  We’re talking about a window of a few seconds before transfer of responsibility (before and after payment).

Many LPO’s are more than happy to oblige with the photo taking. 

And think about what sellers have to do to protect their rear ends from unscrupulous buyers (with the complicity of eBay and PayPal), to ensure they aren’t out of pocket for the initial cost of the item, hard earned income, the item, and potentially another postage fee (if a buyer has a claim found in their favour, but are required to return item).  The photo taking process is called self-insurance.

I know if I was in their position, I’d be doing exactly the same thing.  As bakeandfry has said – no privacy laws are infringed upon.