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21-04-2024
09:37 PM
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22-04-2024
11:27 AM
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kh-syedse
Worst nightmare , seller advertized and sold small tube like green glass perfume bottle as uranium glass and stated on her site that it glows ...but it does not react to ultra violet light and accordingly was returned to seller and a full refund obtained after raising issue with Ebay, I have transcripts of Ebay's chats stating that abuse from seller was not tolerated etc. ...........Firstly I offered to buy the non uranium item for a lesser cost to avoid extra postage costs leaving final decision to seller who replied " I hate selling to cheapskates like you, and your threatening negative FB means nothing to me, your a disgusting human being ..."......I posted a negative feedback regarding false advertizing and the abuse and slander and that seller still claimed that item was uranium glass...and have asked her to send or post a photo of item being lit up by ultra violet light...
her response was " You have been reported to Ebay for your blackmail threats, they have also removed the fraudulent negative feedback you left me, you are a disgusting dog ".....Ebay has now accused me of extortion... no evidence...seller never had to provide proof of item being Uranium glass but keeps sending emails...latest being " I will be relisting that uranium glass today and naming you as the fraud who returned it after trying to extort/blackmail me , I hope you rot in hell you disgusting excuse of a human being .."
The worst thing is that the item has been listed again eBay item number with no proof photo of it being uranium glass with my name and stating that I am a fraud etc.... !!!!
on 23-04-2024 03:29 PM
OP, you keep focusing on the negative comments, feedback, defamation - I am suggesting you don’t mention that at all. Just focus only on your full name and address details being posted in the seller’s listing.
If you conflate this issue with the issue that’s already been decided/resolved (that is, feedback removed, unpleasant communications via message), you will not get a new response! Focus on the doxxing.
on 23-04-2024 03:40 PM
OMG, it is really shocking that eBay hasn't done anything... If they can't change the description, they should take down the listing altogether.
The OP's feedback was removed because eBay considered it extortion. I don't think the OP had broken any rules in the wording of the feedback itself? What the seller did, however, is far more concerning.
Judging from the seller's reaction, she seems to be truly convinced it contains uranium, although I am surprised that an experienced seller would not post pictures of the bottle under UV light. According to threads I have read, it is the only proof it contains uranium (a Geiger counter can also be used). One cannot know for sure based on appearance. If she didn't believe the OP, she should have asked to return the item WITHOUT abuse.
The only mistake the OP probably made was to ask for a certain amount of money as a partial refund. Usually it is better to contact the seller with photos confirming the item is NAD, and the seller should then offer a solution and seller and buyer can negotiate, although I don't think the seller would have cooperated anyway.
Sorry, maybe I missed it because it is such a long thread, but why did eBay decide in the seller's favour? Were you able to provide a proof that it doesn't glow?
This is a quick search, and yes, most other sellers do post pictures of uranium glass under UV light:
https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p4432023.m570.l1313&_nkw=uranium+glass&_sacat=0
on 23-04-2024 03:52 PM
Sorry, maybe I missed it because it is such a long thread, but why did eBay decide in the seller's favour?
That was only about f/b removal. Buyer was refunded......
on 23-04-2024 03:57 PM
@countessalmirena wrote:OP, you keep focusing on the negative comments, feedback, defamation - I am suggesting you don’t mention that at all. Just focus only on your full name and address details being posted in the seller’s listing.
If you conflate this issue with the issue that’s already been decided/resolved (that is, feedback removed, unpleasant communications via message), you will not get a new response! Focus on the doxxing.
Hasn't the OP already been there done that, multiple times? Surely, the only recourse now is defamation?
on 23-04-2024 04:04 PM
twyngwyn, I may be wrong… It’s simply that the OP was posting ❝RTN - Buyer - case decided in buyer favor no appeal❞ (which indicates to me that the discussion was based on an appeal re the refund rather than the current issue)… and there wasn’t any specific description of what ❝the same behaviour❞ was.
OP, did you contact Live Help on a separate issue? Or did you contact as a follow-up or appeal to the original decision about feedback or refund?
on 23-04-2024 04:12 PM
This covers all three.
For a defamation action to succeed, the person complaining of the defamation (the plaintiff) has to prove three things: that the communication has been published to a third person; that the communication identifies (or is about) the plaintiff; and. that the communication is defamatory.
on 23-04-2024 04:14 PM
OP - was there a return address on the item received - if so did you keep the information.??
on 23-04-2024 04:15 PM
yep.......
on 23-04-2024 06:03 PM
No, did not ever think seller was going to respond as she has....
on 23-04-2024 06:20 PM
can you answer countessalmirena's last post, please.....EXACTLY what are we talking about here?