on 21-02-2015 11:27 PM
MOST OF THE CHEAPER BRAID FISHING LINE ON EBAY IS FALSELY ADVERTISED. BY OVER RATING THEIR LINE CAPACITY,
I VE BOUGHT & TESTED ALL THE BRAID THAT I HAVE PURCHEST & ALL THE BRAID MY 2 SONS HAVE BEEN BUYING.
SINCE LOOSING FISH DUE TO LINE FAILURE ON BOTH BRAIDED & FLUOROCARBON LINES.
THEY ARE OVER RATED BY OVER HALF WHAT THEY CLAIM TO BE.
EG, 100LB LINE IS SUPPOSED TO SUPPORT 100LBS OF WEIGHT!! SIMPLE ENOUGH, ISNT IT,
I VE TESTED NO LESS THAN 15 DIFFERENT BRAIDED LINES & 12 FLUOROCARBON LINES FOR STRENTH & THE RESULTS ARE SHOCKING ALL OF THEM, DONT COME ANYWHERE NEAR THE STRENTH ADVERTISED
100LB RATED LINE ONLY SUPPORTS BETWEEN 39 -46LBS
40LB RATED LINE ONLY SUPPORTS BETWEEN 17 -19LBS
30LB RATED LINE ONLY SUPPORTS BETWEEN 12-14LBS
& SO ON.. BOTH BIN BRAIDED & FLUOROCARBON LINES
PLEASE TEST YOUR NEXT PURCHASE, BY SIMPLY TRYING TO SUPPORT WEIGHTS EQUALL TO THE LINE RATING YOU BOUGHT,,
IF YOU GOT A 50LB BRAID OR FLUOROCARBON LINE, TIE IT TO A WEIGHT OF 50LB & TRY TO SUPPORT THE WEIGHT.
IF RATING IS CORRECT IT SHOULD SUPPORT THE WEIGHT,
WHEN YOU DO THIS TEST, YOU WILL NOTICE THE LINE WILL BREAK & YOUR 50LB LINE WOULD BE LUCKY TO SUPPORT 22LBS. UNDER HALF THE STRENGHT ADVERTISED
THATS FRAUD, RIGHT THERE, THAT COULD BE CAUSING YOU TO LOSE YOUR CATCH!!
YOU SHOULD DEMAND A REFUND..
ALSO TEST YOUR FLUOROCARBON FOR STENGTH THE SAME WAY..
BUT ALSO DO THE BURN TEST. TO SEE IF IT IS ACTUALLY FLUOROCARBON. OR YOUR GETTING RIPPED OFF, & PAYING 5 TIMES TO MUCH FOR JUST A MONO LINE
PUT A FLAME TO THE END OF YOUR LINE, IF IT CATCHES A LIGHT OR BURNS VERY EASY, ITS PROBALLY NOT FLUOROCARBON, & JUST MONO.
FLUOROCARBON DOESNT IGNITE INTO FLAME, IT SORT OF MELTS INTO A BALL & GOES BLACKISH MUCH SLOWER THAN MONO.
SO BUYER BE AWARE.
IF YOUR PRODUCT FAILS THE WEIGHT TEST OR THE FIRE TEST.
DEMAND A REFUND, YOUR BEING RIPPED OFF. I HAVE BEEN AGAIN & AGAIN WITH BRAID V& FLUOROCARBON.
ONLY BY TESTING & DEMANDING REFUNDS FROM THESE SELLERS SELLING FAKE & OR MISREPRESENTED ITEMS.
CAN WE SEE THE END OF THESE SELLERS, SELLING THEIR SUBSTANDARD OR EVEN FRAUDULENT WHARES TO PEOPLE BUYING & SPENDING THEIR MONEY IN GOOD FAITH.
I LD LIKE TO HEAR FROM ANYONE ELSE DOING TESTS ON THESE PRODUCTS, ALSO ABOUT TESTED GOOD PRODUCT.
IF THERE IS ANY ON LINE
CHEERS
on 19-03-2015 10:56 AM
Excuse my dyslexic typos btw.
on 19-03-2015 12:33 PM
The Bullet Proof PE Braid line is breaking mid line and not on the knots. Two possibility’s, one is that this is a faulty batch of braid and they are unaware, or two, they are knowingly selling a product that is not as described.
on 19-03-2015 01:09 PM
Digging into the links posted above yielded this - http://www.paulusjustfishing.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32&p=52&sid=656a4331f080ea9b0f13549666934...
Claims that self testing braid is pretty much impossible and will under test by 50% (I realise yours is breaking under 50% but just using it as an example). Seems to know what he is talking about but at the same time there is a table of lines that have massively overtested, something that in my experience just doesn't happen. Have been a member of a number of fishing clubs over the years and have never heard of a record catch being invalidated or shunted into the next highest class because it overtested, so who really knows lol.
The line manufacturers and the big fishing bodies (GFAA, IGFA etc) all test on an Instron machine which costs many thousands of dollars so unless a rec fisherman has access to one it's not really going to be an apples to apples comparison anyway.
130 popping at 40 mid-line is obviously a worry but there could be numerous logical reasons for it, one of which is obviously a faulty batch. Drag setting at 30% should render most manufacturing defects redundant anyway, although 130/40 is definitely sailing a bit close to the breeze! Obviously up to you how you wanted to proceed but I wouldn't automatically assume something underhanded is going on, maybe return the line minus 4 or 5 metres and submit that to the IGFA and see what they find?
on 21-03-2015 01:08 AM
If it breaks mid line then there are weak spots in the line, ie it is faulty, not a rating issue. The knot will always be weaker than line, as long as line is uniform without local imperfections.
That is leaving aside of course any in use abrasion on the line, which is a weakness of braid.
26-03-2015 04:03 PM - edited 26-03-2015 04:04 PM
Not too bad on a 3kg chinese power pro copy!
55cm Mangrove Jack...
on 27-03-2015 02:53 AM
27-03-2015 07:19 AM - edited 27-03-2015 07:20 AM
Thank you! Yeah, I was pretty chuffed. We guesstimated around 3kgs, but not having any scales, and being fishos...well?
It was returned to the water shortly after the photo session, to swim away unharmed.
Anyway, it was caught in a Gold Coast lake last November, (I'm sworn to secrecy, on pain of death), on a live mullet, and as stated, on 3kg chinese braid - and was my 1st Jack.
Don't know what I'm going to do to top that!
on 27-03-2015 11:01 AM
on 27-03-2015 05:57 PM
Yep. Heard good reports from Hinze - trouble is, I fly up - so no boat. Everything has to be landbased.
Still, with Jacks like him, metre+ giant herring, hooked and dropped, dart and whiting in the surf, 50metres from where we stay, life's not too shabby!
Still at the missus to retire up there somewhere!
S'funny - the guy who introduced me to his secret honey hole, told me they'd only fire on live bait, but I went back 3-4 times after, and flogged the water to foam, with every popper, stickbait, minnow and soft plastic - to no avail. Not even a follow!
on 28-03-2015 02:22 AM