Bait and Switch Scam

An elderly gentleman spent $467 on an electric scooter.  It was ordered here and the seller was ridedream.  They sent this man a small box of chinese pastry with tracking.  Then when he started asking where his purchase is, they screamed that he has received the item - here is the tracking.  Sadly he left it too late to claim through Ebay and he paid by bank deposit.

He is a pensioner and these Chinese scammers should not be allowed on this platform.  I do not have the gentleman's user ID to speak to Ebay, but I think pressure should be put on that seller to refund immediately.

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@*sons_n_daughters* wrote:

I'm wondering how the OP knew about this when they don't know the buyer's ID? Have I missed something?


Yes, maybe.

I have some friends & family who use ebay occasionally. Very occasionally these days, but they used to use it more years ago and sometimes one of my friends would recount experiences on it etc

I wouldn't have a clue what her user name on ebay is. I am not sure of my sister's private username either.

So I can understand how ruraltrade could well have a neighbour, or even a friend of the man, who has come to him with this problem, knowing that he sells on ebay and so expecting he might 'know what to do'.

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Yes true,  but surely if they really wanted to contact Ebay as stated,  they would simply ask the ''elderly gentleman'', ''pensioner'' for their user ID.   But also if Ebay were any good with privacy they wouldnt talk to ruraltrade about it due to privacy.  

 

 

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I suspect ruraltrade was just trying to cover all bases and get in to explain why he had not contacted ebay before he had boardies writing, "Why don't you contact ebay directly about this?"

I also suspect he may have been told about this by a 3rd party, not the older man himself, and he has been shocked and upset, so he's looking for ideas.

 

What is striking me is that an electrical scooter would be quite a heavy item, whereas a small box of pastry would be light, so even with tracking, it should be obvious that the parcel could not have contained a scooter.

I am wondering if they could get Auspost evidence as to the weight etc and go into ebay chat.

I know it was paid for by direct deposit but all the same, the actual sale would show on ebay and the man obviously has messages where the seller has said it has been delivered with tracking etc.

If the tracking numbers can be matched up and shown to have been attached to a small parcel, then ebay has evidence of a scam.

It's worth a try. Not saying that the buyer will get a refund but ebay may do something about the seller if fraud is proven.

The buyer may also be able to go to his bank to report what has happened, with evidence.

At this stage, anything is worth a try.

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Too late now but for anyone buying on ebay it is always best to pay for an item using a credit card via paypal as you have multiple options if anything goes wrong. Bank deposit only gives you ebay with a short time frame.

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Because through the job I do, I spoke with this gentleman when he was crying out for help.  

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You got it in one springzone.  I advised him to contact his bank, but I don't hold out much hope that they will be able to do anything.

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@ruraltrade wrote:

You got it in one springzone.  I advised him to contact his bank, but I don't hold out much hope that they will be able to do anything.


I hope he has some success.

 

Hopefully you have advised him to pay with a safe method should he decide to buy on line again. And shown him where the eBay Money Back Guarantee is on listings  & explained what type of case to open should this happen again.

 

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And not to buy a Chinese electrical scooter that could very well burst into flames whilst charging.

 

He may have lost money, but saved his life and/or house

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Utterly, utterly agree

 

First and foremost thing that needs stating very loud and clear

 

Getting one's money back is going to be of little use if another dangerous , knock off piece of garbage is bought from another dodgy seller in China

 

No matter how much 'cheaper it is to choose that seller'

 

Do not buy this sort of thing on eBay

 

especially not from a dodgy seller in China

 

It will  not end well, ever

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How did learn about this? Poor old thing. Very sad if it truly happened to a pensioner. 

 

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