Counterfeit Products.What can we do?

[malishadesilva2010]

Hi,

I just bought a guitar and the ukulele from a seller.The seller was based in NSW Australia.

Both are fakes.(The Guitar was ESP LTD and the ukulele was Ibanez)

The seller has a 30 day money back guarantee. I really can't be bothered to repack and re post them again.So I decided to keep them.Also my issue is not about money.

Its about the principle of the thing.

Also if I send them back he will dupe someone else.

But I was just wondering in a world where everything is faked is there any way to overcome this.

One of the securities we had was to buy from Australian sellers. Well that was what I was thinking up to now. 

This seller's advert has been directly cut and paste sections from the original sites. Sellers like this will give a bad name to Australian sellers.Not only that what about the honest and straightforward seller who are genuinely trying to do a good business?

This is a losing battle in our world. Only thing that matters is Money, Money and more Money.Isn't there anything that we can do?They get away with it so easily.

It makes me sad,very sad.He is still there selling stuff.When I read the reviews on his  bay site most of his clients seems to be very happy with there purchases.

I heard that this was common in sites like Alibaba & Ali express where they openly advertise and sell counterfeits of known brands.But now its here in Australia.

Is it only me that's sad about these things?Is there anyone else out there? 

Thanks

[character_parties_aus]

I suffer hugely from fakes. eBay unfortunatley do almost nothing about it unless forced to by the copyright owner.

Report the fake to the copyright owner and also tell the seller you are going to pass their details to the copyright owner unless you get a refund.

That might shake them up a bit.

[duck---dodgers]

Can you pay with counterfeit cash?

[aps1080]

"Report the fake to the copyright owner and also tell the seller you are going to pass their details to the

copyright owner unless you get a refund."

Agree, get the copyright holder onto it as they can and will do something about it.

[j_ds_au]

Sending fakes via Auspost and USPS, at the least, is illegal.

eBay are aware of this, and that returned fakes can be resold, so a year or two back, they changed their policy. You are NOT required to return fake items to get a full refund. Open a dispute, give neg. feedback.

Joe.

[phorum_junkie*]

You can get a refund from Paypal without return if you can provide written proof from a qualified 3rd party that they are fake. Paypal cannot just take your word for it, it is up to you to provide proof.

[lokeshkoti]

I have bought beats original headphones 2 years ago and the Bluetooth wasn’t working so I went to Apple store to get it fixed and they confirmed that they are fake and they can’t fix it. I chatted with eBay and their response was they worked for 2 years and they don’t care if they work now. They didn’t bother taking any action on the seller. I will post the chat transcript online soon.

[davewil1964]

Please don't.

This thread is twice as old as your 'problem'.

Which isn't a problem. What do you expect eBay to do 2 years down the track? Especially on your unsupported word. Or did you get Apple to confirm, in writing, under an official letterhead, that they were fake? Most warranties will have well and truly expired in that time anyway. How much did you pay vis a vis RRP at the time? A lot less, I will hazard a guess.

[c_mount]

Ebay simply don't give a $hit. It's income for them.
Loads of FAKE NRL jerseys all over the place on here!! Nothing gets done.

Down with Fakebay.

[c_mount]

Ahh so your attitude make it OK then? You part of the ring?

[yeoldecoinco]

So, who says they are fakes? The buyer? Is the buyer always correct? That is just their opinion and not always correct.

I sold a kilo of old Australian silver coins to a real piece of work about a year ago.

This person decided they were fakes, even though I am a coin dealer of 25 years experience and they were all genuine coins. AND that person had no experience about coins

If one applied the law in this case, the buyer would destroy them, without returning them to the seller. and I would have been $700 out of pocket.

I asked for them to be returned, at least they were and I refunded the buyer, paid the postage both ways and lost about $50 over that "sale" all because someone with no experience declared my items to be fakes AND they posted negative and defamatory feedback.

Sold a Chinese Trade dollar to a buyer recently. They said it was fake and returned it. It is not a fake, it is a genuine coin.

Sure there are a lot of fakes sold on eBay, but the buyer is not always right. Items that a refund is paid for should be returned to the seller.