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on 24-07-2019 04:18 PM
Why the hell are eBay not weeding out some of these really dodgy sellers and banning their IP address permently.
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24-07-2019 04:22 PM - edited 24-07-2019 04:23 PM
Are the sellers here or registered in China
*IF* they are in China, eBay Australia can't/won't stop them
BUT if people stopped buying from these scammers, who have hundreds and hundreds of negs it certainly would help
One could also ask why do eBay allow dodgey buyers to lie lie and scam, and reward them for doing so ?
Have you reported the seller(s) and/ or opened the appropraite disputes if you've needed to?
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on 24-07-2019 04:23 PM
Same could be said of serial neggers-good grief you have some issues
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24-07-2019 07:40 PM - edited 24-07-2019 07:42 PM
@grey_lycan,
If you wish to avoid dodgy sellers, your best strategy is to stop purchasing from them. eBay will not stop sellers registered on eBay.cn or eBay.com.my (etc.) from selling. Chinese eBay sellers do not come under Australian consumer legislation. eBay.com.au has no jurisdiction over eBay.cn. eBay is just so thankful to have so much as a toehold in China to even consider taking any action that would jeopardise its very minimal presence in China.
For a potted history of eBay's efforts in China, and why eBay won't upset China,
For a quick overview of China's respect for trade secrets, proprietary manufacturing processes or formulae, and IP in general:
❝China has been repeatedly accused of stealing the trade secrets it desires, using cyberespionage to strike "US commercial networks in line with Chinese industrial policy goals," according to the Office of the United States Trade Representative.
It has also been accused of using its strict market access rules in order to obtain intellectual property from foreign competitors.
China requires foreign firms to start joint ventures with local companies in order to gain access to its lucrative market. Those companies are also often required to share their intellectual property with the local Chinese company they partner with.
In the end, Chinese firms end up gaining the advanced technology of foreign companies without needing to compete with them in the Chinese market, thanks to heavy government subsidies.❞
Every time - every single time - than an Australian buyer purchases from a dodgy Chinese seller, it's encouraging China's Made in China 2025 global strategy, which ipso facto means doing damage to the Australian economy as well as to the global economy outside China. Yes, we have an important industrial relationship with China, but we're tipping more and more power into the Chinese side of the see-saw.
(Purchasing from an Australian company who has the goods manufactured in China is already one step removed from benefiting the Australian economy and job market as a whole... in the long term... but purchasing from a Chinese seller who isn't under contract to an Australian company and thus doesn't need to meet minimum safety levels, Australian standards, quality control to ensure the required components and raw materials are used... that's something I have deplored for a long time.)
I'm explaining this not only for you, but because I think it's the least that I can do to try to show at least some Australian eBay buyers what is at risk here. Save a few dollars - for our long-term collapse. Grab a bargain - and see sub-standard zero-quality-controlled items continue to flood the Australian market. Tell ourselves we're being very very smart by not paying the RRP (or the lowest price available from an Australian authorised seller) and put ourselves, our homes and our families at risk of destruction, injury, death (because of complete indifference to Australian standards for electrical goods)...
Australian regulatory compliance marks:
“There are regulations that apply to the supply of electrical equipment and appliances. The requirements set out in the regulations must be followed. A failure to do so is a criminal offence.”
“Regulations and Standards apply to all electrical equipment sold or offered for supply in Australia. Certain types of equipment are classified as prescribed. These pieces of equipment must go through a certification process which ensures the equipment is compliant to the relevant safety standards before being offered for supply in Australia.”
“Regulatory Compliance Mark (RCM)
Prescribed electrical products must have an RCM on the appliance or an Australian approval number to show that the product has been certified.
This mark is currently recognised by all States and Territories of Australia.”
Your feedback shows that you regularly purchase from Chinese sellers... and are not satisfied in some cases (and lulled into feeling satisfied at the time of receiving some items in other cases). For example:
Doesn't turn on. No English instruction manual. No Australian plug AC charger
Bulbs do not locate correctly, dimensions wrong. Impossible to secure retainers
Extreemly poor eBay seller. No communication, reply to my qestions.
If you haven’t got it, don’t sell it! It’s against Australian consumer law.
Pieces missing and not as described. Buy the same thing from Supecheap for less
Barely big enough to fit a child let alone an adult. Very disappointing.
Not as described. Batteries not available in Australia and charger is European.
Sizing is incorrect, extreemly poor quality, completely out of proportion
Sizing is not accurate
... and lo and behold, the sellers' feedback profile pages show that they are registered in China (vast majority) or Malaysia or Taiwan.
Why would you risk buying from these sellers?
To avoid purchasing from dodgy sellers, be pro-active and... avoid dodgy sellers. There's a reason behind the saying "You get what you pay for." You have no protection under Australian legislation if you buy from overseas sellers, and there's no warranty that will apply, either.
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24-07-2019 09:54 PM - edited 24-07-2019 09:58 PM
Why the hell are eBay not weeding out some of these really dodgy BUYERS and banning their IP address permently? A bit like yourself really.
There is nothing I love more than complete garbage buyers coming here and outing themselves as being so. It means sellers here can take advantage of the block feature. There are plenty of sellers here who sell the stuff you like to buy. Guess what? You won't be buying from them.
I would suggest that you buy locally rather than eBay. Or just don't buy at all. You really seem to have so many issues. Or, you just have a major attitude problem. My guess it's the latter and you're hoping to get everything you buy for free.
Welcome to the party dude!
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on 24-07-2019 10:25 PM
@*tippy*toes* wrote:Why the hell are eBay not weeding out some of these really dodgy BUYERS and banning their IP address permently? A bit like yourself really.
There is nothing I love more than complete garbage buyers coming here and outing themselves as being so. It means sellers here can take advantage of the block feature. There are plenty of sellers here who sell the stuff you like to buy. Guess what? You won't be buying from them.
I would suggest that you buy locally rather than eBay. Or just don't buy at all. You really seem to have so many issues. Or, you just have a major attitude problem. My guess it's the latter and you're hoping to get everything you buy for free.
Welcome to the party dude!
Maybe he's just been unlucky.
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on 24-07-2019 10:36 PM
Very unlucky, it would seem.
Makes one wonder why he perseveres. As Mr Einstein, who had more than a couple of braincells to rub together, is said to have said "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."
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on 25-07-2019 11:14 AM
@grey_lycan wrote:Why the hell are eBay not weeding out some of these really dodgy sellers and banning their IP address permently.
Because ebay gets commission from every sale they make. It isn't called commission, it's called fees, but that's what it amounts to.
It keeps their business ticking over nicely.
And if new buyers make small purchases that don't work out but decide not to go to the bother of trying to work out how to make a claim etc, all the better for ebay.
Same with bad buyers. You can get someone who 'buys' but rarely pays on literally dozens of items. A serial non paying pest. But they don't get banned either. Similar reason. Each time they 'buy', that's another ebay fee charged. And if by chance it is a new seller affected who doesn't bother to claim their fee back, all the better for ebay.
Ebay does take action on some sellers and some buyers and some ads but it might depend on what you call a dodgy seller. If the seller posts the items and some people give a neg, some give a positive for the seller, then I wouldn't expect ebay to do much.
Bottom line-look out for your own interests & check out the sellers before buying. And buy from Aust where possible.
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25-07-2019 12:22 PM - edited 25-07-2019 12:23 PM
Much like that other person who constantly bought from sellers they knew were dodgey for the sole purpose of leaving them abusive feedback, happily helping to keep such sellers in business in the process
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on 01-08-2019 10:15 AM
I'm bidding on an item and low and behold this same item is also being sold by 2 other sellers lol.
The exact same item,same image,different seller account but around the same area lol.
And ebay naru'd one seller last week but try telling ebay that there are different sellers scamming at the same time and they go what do you mean? lol
It's a fraudulent listing simple as that but ebay were going on about that it's not from the same seller so it's not a duplicate listing so we can't do anything about it yet,seriously ebay?
I think the original seller reported the listing that's why it was deleted in the first place but come on now there are multiple sellers trying it on lol.
