Hi,has any members had problems with the Global Shipping program.

[benji_woof]

Hi,has any members had problems with the Global Shipping program.It would seem that another party has been added just to double our chances of a mistake.The contract is between buyer and seller on the ebay site and it is hard enough to recieve an item without damage and in a reasonable time without it being duplicated in the shipping process.Unable to contact the global Shipping Co so where do we get any help.

[lyndal1838]

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@papermoon.ladywrote:

It is a comment from a verified reviewer I read here: https://www.consumeraffairs.com/business/pitney_bowes.html

I am going away to visit family tomorrow so I won't be able to come back.

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You have certainly destroyed any credibility you had in discussing the GSP service to Australia.

How is one comment by an ebay member in France and another in the UK, commenting on an American website, relevant to the GSP service to Australia?

There are only the two comments on that site that even mention the GSP......the other 100 complaints are about another branch of Pitney Bowes business interests....the leasing of postal equipment.

If you are really interested in discussing the problems of the GSP service in regards to Australia I suggest you dig up all the old threads on the boards and see what problems Australians have had with Pitney Bowes and the GSP.

If you must use Google at least read Australian sites which may be vaguely relevant to Australian problems.

That should keep you busy for quite some time.....there are plenty of problems with the service to Australia without having to use comments on an overseas website by people who are not even in Australia.

[4channel]

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@papermoon.ladywrote:

I NEVER had a problem with international purchases and normal shipping.

Not a single time. As a matter of fact I was always very happy with all of them. And tracking works perfectly if you ask AusPost (it is not available on their site, but they know everything, including when an item will be delivered and is with the driver).

We are all cautious, but at the end of the day most transactions for most people were fine before the GSP.  Some buyers are scammers, some sellers are scammers, but the majority are not of course. Frequent sellers in the USA and the UK still use normal shipping because they want to remain frequent sellers in the future I guess.

If anything, I believe (like others) that PB are scammers and don't want to give them my money under any circumstances.There are plenty of other places to buy without GSP, actually everywhere else, so I can still take my own decisions and pay normal postage.

I assume eBay gets something too from PB and from promoting them?

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I have never had a problem with international purchases either mariq7 . Only one guy who never sent stuff to me did the same. I suspect he had a drug or party lifestyle problem. 

I agree with everything you say here.  Scam yes 100% with you on that.

Incidentally, another overseas site that I deal with now provides good sellers using a good postage rate. LOL, only issue that I had in the short time was the seller sending item to the wrong adress.

I'll hang on for a while longer with Ebay but the crippling inhibitive rates of GSP makes  me avoid sellers that use it.

[4channel]

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@papermoon.ladywrote:

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@k1ooo-slr-saleswrote:

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@papermoon.lady

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but many eBay sellers all over the world choose to not sell internationally.  In the USA, many sellers were opted in to the GSP without their knowledge. 

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Yes. I have even seen sellers who indicate GSP as shipping method and then in the description they say "UK only" for example. I first thought it was weird, but then understood why.

Sellers who used to sell small items internationally before should never have been opted in without fully understanding or being told how it works because they have just lost buyers and bidders. It is just worse for them not only because they have lost buyers and bidders, but also because I still think that traditional postal services are better. It is not even clear who handles the GSP parcels and some people say PB uses very cheap companies that are just not 100% reliable.

Those who didn't sell internationally at all "could" find some use in it, possibly explaining in the description that it might be expensive, but that they only ship domestically and this is the only option they have to sell to buyers overseas.

At any rate eBay shouldn't have opted sellers in automatically in the first place because it is obvious that it is just not good for everyone, and unfortunately not everyone knows. The biggest mistake was to opt all sellers in automatically without fully explaining how it works.

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Bit like forced water Fluoridation and GM veges, people have had this posion forced on them because they don't know any better. The same with Pitney. Sellers need to know that they can opt out.

One seller who I have tried and tried to reason with fully believes she has a binding agreement with Ebay to use Pitney Bowes.  She said she will not manipulate the system for her or my advantage. WHAT !!!! Are we now in George Orwell's 1984???

[*tippy*toes*]

Now come on, you can't say that GM cherries are not THE best cherries out! Big, plump juicy balls of delight. Better than those ghastly ones we got as kids that were all seed and little flesh. I'll stick with my GM cherries thanks very much. Both growing and eating.

Spoiler

Some people need to learn that not all GM is bad. Most doesn't involve chemicals, just an alteration in DNA to make a bigger product.

[padi*0409]

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@*tippy*toes*wrote:

Now come on, you can't say that GM cherries are not THE best cherries out! Big, plump juicy balls of delight. Better than those ghastly ones we got as kids that were all seed and little flesh. I'll stick with my GM cherries thanks very much. Both growing and eating.

Spoiler

Some people need to learn that not all GM is bad. Most doesn't involve chemicals, just an alteration in DNA to make a bigger product.

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.............tinfoil hat to the rescue Tippy.............................

                                                                                               

[k1ooo-slr-sales]

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@4channel wrote:Bit like forced water Fluoridation and GM veges, people have had this posion forced on them because they don't know any better. The same with Pitney. Sellers need to know that they can opt out.

One seller who I have tried and tried to reason with fully believes she has a binding agreement with Ebay to use Pitney Bowes.  She said she will not manipulate the system for her or my advantage. WHAT !!!! Are we now in George Orwell's 1984???

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the difference between fluoridation of water supplies, where consumers are not given a choice for their tap water supply, and an eBay purchase is that nobody forces the eBay item upon the buyer.  The buyer has the choice to not buy those items that use the GSP if they don’t like the cost.

As for the seller who will not budge on the GSP . . . . there is nothing binding buyers to buying from that seller . . . find another seller.

OR, do as has already been advised and find a way around it.  I have, on more than one occasion:

- before GSP came in, when a USA seller would not ship to me, I got a friend in the USA to buy on their eBay account.  They got free shipping to their address, and they forwarded the item to me.  This would still work now that the GSP is in place. 

- on another occasion, I changed my eBay and PayPal primary address to my friends address and bought and paid for the item myself, and my friend posted it to me once it arrived at their place.

[4channel]

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@*tippy*toes*wrote:

Now come on, you can't say that GM cherries are not THE best cherries out! Big, plump juicy balls of delight. Better than those ghastly ones we got as kids that were all seed and little flesh. I'll stick with my GM cherries thanks very much. Both growing and eating.

Spoiler

Some people need to learn that not all GM is bad. Most doesn't involve chemicals, just an alteration in DNA to make a bigger product.

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Ahh tippy*toes* , there is a difference between selective breeding of a certain plant  to make a more sturdy item and the transgenic modifacation which involves the insertion of the genes from another species to create some kind of hybrid. An example would be the DNA of a spider or jellyfish into an apple. Or the flavour saver tomatoes that hit the shelves in the US some years ago and made people sick.   Ahh, but I suspect you already know that. So I won't be too concerned for you if your cherries are just selectivly bred, but I would have some concern if they contained the DNA of the botulism virus like the round up ready sweetcorn or soy does.

https://www.essentialstuff.org/2011/12/13/Cat/how-gmos-destroy-life-soil-and-your-gut-probiotics/

[imastawka]

*sigh

I do wish this thread was not bumped just to complain about the GSP, or to trot out

some strange anecdote relating to same.

No new information has come to light that I can see.

[k1ooo-slr-sales]

Spoiler

I’m just waiting for Godwin’s law of posting to kick in, and the poster that does that, according to Godwin himself, loses the debate