on 23-03-2016 02:29 PM
I completely understand some sellers are moving their postage time out so that the estimated delivery dates that ebay comes up with will give them a bit of leeway.
I also understand that sellers can't be expected to be posting every day.
However, I recently bought a couple of similar, small craft items-the sort that could easily go in an envelope. One item from Australia, one from UK. Both with postage included.
That was about 10 days ago.
The aussie seller posted out a day or so later and it arrived soon after, I was extremely happy with it, so that was all done and dusted a week ago.
Now, the UK seller has not even posted it yet. They are a large concern-they have over 6 million listings on ebay. They do give themselves a handling time of 10 days but I honestly thought-big business, they are covering themselves, they are probably likely to ship it within a week.
My question is-am I being unreasonable to feel so annoyed? I think any business of that size should be capable of posting out in 7 days.
My perception is they are slack and I will probably ding any postage time star, to be honest.
23-03-2016 05:49 PM - edited 23-03-2016 05:50 PM
If it said ten days, give them the ten days...it is upfront. Assuming 7, well, I can see where you're coming from on that one (give themselves time for any out-of-stock etc.) but you should be giving them the time they say, regardless of any thinkin' you may have.
That's being fair, it's not being generous or anything.
Usually I give a seller a few more days after they say to cover any little hiccups they might have had. Then an email, then if they send pronto I don't ding.
Wouldn't be dinging if it's posted withing the time stated, or quickly after with a reasonable explanation/delay, no.
on 23-03-2016 06:11 PM
Were you aware of the10 days for postage at the time you bought the item , or did you only notice it after you had paid?
If you were aware and went ahead anyway, then you have no grounds for complaint and certainly no reason to give bad feedback.
If you were not aware then you still have no grounds for complaint and, hopefully, have learnt an important lesson - read all terms and conditions before agreeing to buy.
on 23-03-2016 10:17 PM
Some big sellers dont always have the stock on hand, and your order is left waiting next delivery. They cover themselves for "out of stock" by having long shipping times.
Is it good for business or not? That is for them to workout, if it negatively impacted them they would change. Personally it would make me source from elsewhere if I had the choice.
It raises a valid point though that with many sellers pushing out handling to cover against shipment defects , while stil posting ASAP, are buyers going to start assuming that 5 days handling etc, does not really mean 5 days handling. It may confirm to buyers that estimate is not an estimate but a 'guarantee'. ie. The benchmark for buyers will be whatever is most common.
on 24-03-2016 12:29 AM
I just want to answer the thread title ... How long should a seller take to post?
Sorry, but to me, that's like asking "when should my neighbour go to bed?" or something - it's not up to me, it's up to them. As long as the handling time is disclosed, there's no issue, and no should - there could be any number of reasons the handling time is 10 days. (Was talking about a similar topic elsewhere recently, high volume, low cost, very often means longer order processing times because one of the ways costs are kept low is by employing fewer staff).
on 24-03-2016 01:44 AM
If the ad said things are generally posted within 10 days I'd be allowing quite a bit more time than that to post it. Any business with 6 million listings would have fluctuations in their sales and this week they may be able to post within 2 days, but next week they may have ten times the orders they usually get in a week and they could end up taking 2 or 3 weeks to post. If I wanted my items urgently I'd buy elsewhere, but if I didn't need them really urgently and their prices and products and service were otherwise excellent, I'd give them plenty of time to post if I knew they were such a large concern.
I wouldn't expect them to employ extra staff if they had a sudden rush of orders because they might not have room for extra staff running hither and thither, and it might just have the effect of slowing things down rather than speeding them up. It's not always easy to find extra staff at short notice either. I certainly wouldn't expect them to pay extra staff to sit around twiddling their thumbs when business is quiet because I know who'd end up paying for it.
Ebay has trained everyone to expect immediate gratification and I think this is really sad. Just because a business is huge doesn't mean they should be able to get things out faster than say a medium sized business. The bigger the business, the bigger the fluctuations they're likely to have in their weekly sales. I'm lucky, I walk to the post office every day to collect my mail so I don't have to make a special effort to post every day, but a lot of people spend a fortune in petrol just to go to the post office in case a buyer gets unhappy if they wait till they're going near the post office for something else in a couple of days' time. Many times I've told a seller to just post when they're going to or near the post office anyway and that I would never mark them down for postage time if they post within a week. I only add the last bit in case they think it's okay if they take a month to post. For small sellers there is life (or should be) apart from ebay and I don't expect them to spend $2 on petrol to get my $5 item posted within a day. Apart from anything else, having all those cars on the road just for a trip to the post office doesn't help the environment!
I'll get off my soapbox now.
24-03-2016 02:11 AM - edited 24-03-2016 02:13 AM
I could not agree more......I often tell sellers to post when it is convenient.
I never expect them to make a special trip to the PO just for my parcels.
on 24-03-2016 02:17 AM
on 24-03-2016 06:09 AM
I know I've had my grumble, but if they do post within a couple of days, I'll be fair enough. I won't ding anything.
If they take much longer than that though, I will.
I don't really care if a business is big or small. I probably have more sympathy for a small business as there may be only one person operating and if they have some crisis, of course it could affect the operation. I would have leeway in that situation. A big company though has employees and things should even out.
One of the star ratings though is based on how the buyer finds their postage and handling. A company that takes up to 10 days is acceptable, one that constantly leaves it till then or later to post is sticking their neck out a bit though, I would have thought. I certainly don't see it as 5 star service. 10 days may be within their stated frame but I would see their postage & handling to be 4 stars at most.
If they leave it eg 3-4 weeks, I would see that as one star service because it would be longer than their stated time and longer than just about any other sellers. And I daresay most other buyers are the same. In fact I know so.
24-03-2016 10:27 AM - edited 24-03-2016 10:31 AM
No problems with dinging slow shipping stars even if it is within their stipulated period. Just dont do negative fb on issues within their promised time frames.
DSRs are not defects now, only a heads up to other buyers that this seller takes a while to ship things, Which in fact just backs up their own terms
on 24-03-2016 10:33 AM
@lyndal1838 wrote:I could not agree more......I often tell sellers to post when it is convenient.
I never expect them to make a special trip to the PO just for my parcels.
You should be on Ebays policy committee. Not only do Ebay expect sellers to do this, but they need to prove it.