on 27-05-2015 02:52 AM
Hello to all!
I need some input from experienced Ebayers please!
I have a problem with a seller who comes up with all sorts of explanations as to why he has not sent my item yet.
History: 16 days ago I bought a laptop for about 100** dollars. Before buying I contacted the seller via “ask the seller a question” for some information on the item. It was not quite suitable and I received a return email with an offer of another laptop, which he allegedly had just listed. I had a look and could not find it in the “see other sellers items list” so he sent me the item number and I found it but it was not suitable either. I unfortunately cant remember under which name this listing was. Maybe he has more than 2 Ids.
I then decided to auction the first laptop I had enquired about. I won the bid, paid straight away online with funds transfer. **The same day** I received an email of the seller asking wether I had paid and which way I had paid. I gave him the information.
I then contacted him with an ebay email and asked him to pack the item safely and if he needed more money I would pay for extra packaging costs. He agreed and I sent an additional amount of 20 dollars via funds transfer, which he must have received on 14th of May.
In-between 11 May and 14th may I received an ebay-email, which said the item, was sent.
On 17th May I received an automated email that the laptop was relisted for sale again. This message probably only came to me because I still had the item stored in “my watch list”. I had a look and it was the identical laptop with the identical text but it had an additional “By Now” option of 200** dollars.
(Interessting: The day he relisted the laptop he also had created a second ID name. His listings and emails started to appear all under his new name.)
I contacted the seller why he is reselling my laptop and he said it is another laptop that looks similar. Not much later I received an automated ebay email that my sale was cancelled and that I should click to get a refund, which I didn’t do.
On inquiry the seller told me that this cancellation was a mistake and I would receive my laptop.
My laptop didn’t turn up and I contacted the seller on 25th May (which is a fortnight from purchase) with ebay email: Item not received.
He answered (with various types of email headers) that due to a sick child and thats why he is away from home until 29th of May and he can’t send it now but only on 29th of May. (How does he know that his sick child will be ok again on 29th?) He also offered me a refund. I declined the refund and said that 29th was too late I needed it earlier.
Then I had a look again on his rating page and found (out of 7 ratings) 1 bad rating where a buyer complained that he had won the item fairly but was not sent the item. The item sold for 1 dollar at auction, which was obviously not good enough for the seller, so he relisted the already sold item.
Maybe the price of 100 dollars for my laptop wasn’t high enough either and that’s why the seller relisted it unaware of the fact that I would receive a “relisted” mail.
On his rating page the last item sold on 21 May and was rated afterwards. This either means to me, that he was at home at least until 21 of May (why didn’t he sent the laptop then in the previous 10 days 11 May till 21 May?) or that he is listing items, buys them himself and gives himself ratings. The latter would make sense given that several items that had already sold (for example a water kettle / no rating appeared) and it was relisted again. The toe bar which the complaining buyer didn’t receive was relisted as well.
He also made a comment on the phone that he needs good ratings. He said that he had problems with a buyer who didnt sent his money and thats why ebay now has a look into (all?) his emails.
Could this seller already have a hidden bad history?
After declining the refund I received again an email saying that I would receive the laptop when he is back home after his relative is out of hospital. This time he didn’t tell me a date. I found this answer to vague and sent another email to tell me a correct date when I will receive the laptop.
I am currently waiting for the answer, but I think I might have got caught up with a scammer.
Another worry is, that more people might get scammed possibly under various ID’s.
When he listed my laptop first time he had zero ratings (I thought I give him a fair go)
6 days later 17th May he changed his name. I had a look at the ID page and there were 2 names listed now. From then on I had to deal with him under his new ID.
During a short phone call he told me he needs good ratings because he had trouble with a buyer who didn’t want to send him his money and therefore Ebay now has access to all his emails.
On the whole I have exchanged about 35 emails with him.
Ladies and gents, I need your opinion please!
Could this possibly be a scammer?
I am not an experienced buyer here on Ebay Australia and would like to know where the pitfalls are also in regards to missing time limits and using the correct request forms for further action.
Thanks for reading my long text and thanks for your input!
on 27-05-2015 07:35 AM
ebay is all about protecting the buyer - if I were you I would open a dispute right now, if you don't know how - come back to these boards and we will walk you through it.
on 27-05-2015 07:37 AM
on 27-05-2015 07:46 AM
on 27-05-2015 10:07 AM
Ask for a refund and take it.
My impression is the seller is giving you the run around & you're not going to get that computer. So don't stall things at all if offered a refund, grab it.
If you didn't pay via paypal, I think there is a good chance you will lose all your money and may not get a refund either if that seller loses the impetus & thinks he can avoid any repercussions just by changing ID.
Hurry. Ask for a refund.
on 27-05-2015 10:37 AM
If it was the Toshiba laptop bought from a seller in Victoria on the 11th May then you are wrong on several counts....he has not got 2 accounts but has merely changed his ID on the 17th. As you started the transaction before that date you are able to find him under both IDs. Nothing to be suspicious of.
If you have an item on your watch list you will be notified if it is relisted.
As you received a notice of cancellation it seems the seller does not want to deal with you. I think he may be afraid for his ratings as you have already said that the laptop was not what you were really looking for but bid on it anyway.
The seller has offered you a refund on two occasions but you declined. Just accept that the seller is not going to send the item and request the refund again. If you paid by bank deposit it is your only option as you cannot open a dispute.
on 27-05-2015 06:28 PM
Thanks for your reply!
I did a fundstransfer direct from my bank account.
One fundstransfer paid for the laptop
the second fundstransfer paid for extra safe packaging which I offered voluntarily to pay.
on 27-05-2015 06:45 PM
"If it was the Toshiba laptop bought from a seller in Victoria on the 11th May then you are wrong on several counts....he has not got 2 accounts but has merely changed his ID on the 17th. As you started the transaction before that date you are able to find him under both IDs. Nothing to be suspicious of."
Thanks, this info is usefull to me 🙂
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"If you have an item on your watch list you will be notified if it is relisted."
Yes, I thought so to. Thanks for confirming that!
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"As you received a notice of cancellation it seems the seller does not want to deal with you. I think he may be afraid for his ratings as you have already said that the laptop was not what you were really looking for but bid on it anyway."
It is posssible that the cancellation was sent when the laptop I bought was relisted again by him(although I had paid for it). He might have cancelled the relisted item. I am not sure because both listings were identical in text and photos.
No, the seller has nothing to fear in regards to that. He told me the type of operating system, which I didnt really want at the time of enquiry. Within a day I decided to accept this operating system and that's why I bought/auctioned it.
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"The seller has offered you a refund on two occasions but you declined. Just accept that the seller is not going to send the item and request the refund again. "
The seller has offered a refund. But I can not do business on the ebay platform if a selleri is allowed to break his legal contract and changes his mind when he pleases to do so. Not having the laptop has prettty bad consequences for me now.
It appears he has not sent an item to another byer. It appears he doesnt want to sell items once they sold to cheap on auction. This is not in keeping with Ebay busines policy.
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"If you paid by bank deposit it is your only option as you cannot open a dispute."
Thanks for that information. I was not aware of this. Terms like "open a dispute" are new to me. I have read quite a lot before bying, but it is sooo much, I didnt read or understand it all. And I must have missed that one. Thanks for the info 🙂
on 27-05-2015 06:47 PM
on 27-05-2015 07:05 PM