Item is Photo Scam

Hey, what does a guy have to do to get ebay to stop a photo item scammer? 

 

This scumbag has defrauded about 30 people, and ebay hasn't and for some reason won't ban them? 

 

All of their items has this at the end of the descriptions where people don't read

 

"You are purchasing the picture of the coin. If you are a human, do not purchase this item as it is set for bot accounts buying out all the cheap items listed."

 

https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?item=166850391161&rt=nc&_ssn=josly_6305&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

 

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wow....they have no items for sale atm....let's see what the buyers from early July will do...are you one of them?

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Ah what is the problem,  the best way is to read the description,

 

Personally I dont agree with what they are doing,  but read the ad, self imposed scam by what I can see.

 

Just looking at the feedback you have left for sellers, you do seem to have a lot of problems.

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Why on earth have 30 people gone ahead a bid on something like this?

 

You would have to question eBay

 

And then question that many people who have happily bid on something that does not exist who are ready and willing to support it

 

Much like common sense 😖

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@sandypebbles wrote:

Why on earth have 30 people gone ahead a bid on something like this?

 

You would have to question eBay

 

And then question that many people who have happily bid on something that does not exist who are ready and willing to support it

 

Much like common sense 😖


Most people don’t read the entire item description, much like close to 0% of people read disclaimers before agreeing to them.

 

Under Australian Consumer Law (ACL), it is illegal for businesses to engage in conduct that is misleading or deceptive, or is likely to mislead or deceive (Section 18 of the ACL).

 

Similarly, in the United States, Section 5 of the Federal Trade Commission Act (FTC Act) prohibits "unfair or deceptive acts or practices in or affecting commerce."

 

The law takes into account the intention and what the average person would do or think.

 

The average person would assume that sellers aren’t actively attempting to commit fraud.

 

This is why misleading listings can be problematic, as they exploit this trust.

 

Clear and honest descriptions are crucial to prevent misunderstandings and ensure fair transactions.

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@the_great_gatsby wrote:

@sandypebbles wrote:

Why on earth have 30 people gone ahead a bid on something like this?

 

You would have to question eBay

 

And then question that many people who have happily bid on something that does not exist who are ready and willing to support it

 

Much like common sense 😖


Most people don’t read the entire item description, much like close to 0% of people read disclaimers before agreeing to them.

 

Under Australian Consumer Law (ACL), it is illegal for businesses to engage in conduct that is misleading or deceptive, or is likely to mislead or deceive (Section 18 of the ACL).

 

Similarly, in the United States, Section 5 of the Federal Trade Commission Act (FTC Act) prohibits "unfair or deceptive acts or practices in or affecting commerce."

 

The law takes into account the intention and what the average person would do or think.

 

The average person would assume that sellers aren’t actively attempting to commit fraud.

 

This is why misleading listings can be problematic, as they exploit this trust.

 

Clear and honest descriptions are crucial to prevent misunderstandings and ensure fair transactions.


Ah ''You are purchasing the picture of the coin. If you are a human, do not purchase this item as it is set for bot accounts buying out all the cheap items listed.'' is really clear to me,  no fine print, it's there in front of you.

 

Not sure of the relevance of the US law, last time I checked we were still in Australia with our own laws.

 

 

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yes...and category misrepresentation as well...because it isn't a coin is it? It should be listed under photographs eg

 

this harks back to the days when sellers used to send empty playstation/xbox boxes....grrr

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@sugar249 wrote:

@the_great_gatsby wrote:

@sandypebbles wrote:

Why on earth have 30 people gone ahead a bid on something like this?

 

You would have to question eBay

 

And then question that many people who have happily bid on something that does not exist who are ready and willing to support it

 

Much like common sense 😖


Most people don’t read the entire item description, much like close to 0% of people read disclaimers before agreeing to them.

 

Under Australian Consumer Law (ACL), it is illegal for businesses to engage in conduct that is misleading or deceptive, or is likely to mislead or deceive (Section 18 of the ACL).

 

Similarly, in the United States, Section 5 of the Federal Trade Commission Act (FTC Act) prohibits "unfair or deceptive acts or practices in or affecting commerce."

 

The law takes into account the intention and what the average person would do or think.

 

The average person would assume that sellers aren’t actively attempting to commit fraud.

 

This is why misleading listings can be problematic, as they exploit this trust.

 

Clear and honest descriptions are crucial to prevent misunderstandings and ensure fair transactions.


Ah ''You are purchasing the picture of the coin. If you are a human, do not purchase this item as it is set for bot accounts buying out all the cheap items listed.'' is really clear to me,  no fine print, it's there in front of you.

 

Not sure of the relevance of the US law, last time I checked we were still in Australia with our own laws.

 

 


Ah yes, I assumed you were American as well...

 

In regards to it being really clear, you understand that contracts that are unreasonable aren't enforceable, right?

Under Australian Consumer Law (ACL), businesses are prohibited from engaging in conduct that is misleading or deceptive, or likely to mislead or deceive (Section 18 of the ACL).

This includes ensuring that any disclaimers or important details in listings are not buried or obscure.

 

The part of the description stating, "You are purchasing the picture of the coin. If you are a human, do not purchase this item as it is set for bot accounts buying out all the cheap items listed," is particularly problematic.

This kind of disclaimer is not only confusing but could also be considered deceptive.

The ACL mandates that businesses must not make false or misleading representations about the goods or services they are selling.

 

Even if the disclaimer is present, it does not absolve the seller of the responsibility to ensure that the listing is clear and not misleading to an average consumer.

 

Most people don't read the description at all, let alone in its entirety.

 

This is why transparency and clarity are so crucial.

 

For example, if a description is too long or complex, it can be argued that the average consumer wouldn't be expected to read through it all, especially if the critical information is hidden within a wall of text.

 

What length of description is too long for you to read entirely? I'm sure you haven't read the entirety of every description for items you've purchased.

 

This is a common behavior, and it's why the law takes into account what the average person would do or think.

 

Ensuring that important information is presented clearly and prominently helps prevent misunderstandings and protects consumers from deceptive practices.

 

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did you 'report' the listing to eBay when it was live, because I doubt you can do it after the fact?

 

There is a REPORT LISTING tab on every item.....

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I think a person who bought could enliist ebay's help for a full refund on the basis the ads are misleading on a number of fronts.

For a start, the title clearly says 'coin set' etc in some ads, or at least coin. Nowhere does it say photo.

 

Next,  I have never heard of 'bots buying out all the cheap items listed'. And the items aren't cheap, they are hundreds of dollars.

Plus as twyngwyn pointed out, the ads are in the coin category.

 

But on another note: The item descriptions are not all that long. The red poppy one I clicked into to look at was 8 lines long. Nine, I guess, if you count the last line which just said thankyou.

That isn't muuch to read and quitre frankly, if you are going to be paying $150 for a coin (the picture shows a whole roll of coins but the ad only mentions one), then surely to goodness it isn't too much to expect a buyer to read 8 lines. No sensible buyer should have fallen into this trap.

 

The seller has added the line that if you make a mistake, ask nicely and he will give a full refund. But he also adds he won't reply to any messages.

But buyers have got him right there. Point that out to an ebay rep and I am sure they would be supporting a 'not as described' claim & keeping him to his word about the refund.

 

The seller has nothing for sale at the moment. I wonder if someone reported his ads and I wonder if he is already under investigation. Ebay allows a lot of stuff but I have a feeling that this sort of ad could see him kicked off ebay, it is a not so subtle attempt to trick consumers.

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