Need some opinions

[au.j001]

I am looking at selling website design on ebay - which would include hosting with variable options.

The options would include ecommerce - - you have administrative access and can easily add your own products etc., through a user-friendly interface.  I would include an SEO service as an additional cost (maybe per month or a one off yearly payment? What do you think?)

I can also do a cheap 'business presence' type website which would be a basic service, $80, including logo design and up to 5 pages. 

I would like to have logo design as a separate, stand alone service as well .  Maybe two logo designs for $35. 

I am wary of offering unlimited revisions within that price, but in reality I am happy to revise within reason. 

Not sure how to word that (ideas?)

Would that be a reasonable price for logos?  To my mind it is supercheap as I used to charge much more than that in the real world, a few years ago.  Is it too cheap to sound like quality work?

I can also do other graphic design (business cards, posters etc) but I'm not sure whether these would be worth listing when people can go to vistaprint. 

Which section would be best to list these things?  

I know buyers only read the title and maybe the first few sentences, so what information would be the most important to you if you were searching for these services? 

I have been selling on ebay for a few years, but only tangible products and I'm a bit nervous about branching out into this different area.  I think it is probably best to start another ID, but I am not sure how well it will go starting with 0 feedback, and I've heard Paypal is holding payments given to new sellers and I don't want to wait 30 days for my money.   

[curraone]

won't you be restricted by the prohibited items policy?

Sellers may not list any item that is electronically delivered. Examples of items that sellers are not permitted to list on eBay:

• An MP3 file

• An eBook

• Wallpaper for a computer

• Recipes in electronic format

[au.j001]

Hmm.  As far as logos go I can send them on a disc, in addition to electronic delivery (or instead of if preferred).

Websites are harder.   But they do allow services, and this is essentially a service. 

You don't receive have to receive anything via email with a website.  I could send all details (log-ins etc)  via normal mail if need be.

So I don't think it necessarly goes against that rule.  Kind of falls into a grey area.

Thanks for reminding me about it though, I had forgotten about that one. 

[cq_tech]

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@au.j001 wrote:

I think it is probably best to start another ID, but I am not sure how well it will go starting with 0 feedback, and I've heard Paypal is holding payments given to new sellers and I don't want to wait 30 days for my money.   

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Not all payments are held by Paypal for 30 days though, as it is my understanding that they will release those funds as soon as the buyer leaves feedback to acknowledge receipt.

[au.j001]

True

If only all buyers left feedback straight away!  I guess it just irks me - cash flow is everything to a business, and I can't find any information on how long they consider you to be 'new' for.  If it is only for the first ten transactions or so that may be ok. 

  I do have an established PP account, with an excellent record so if it only goes on that I might be ok. 

Thinking more on the e-delivery issue I thought I would probably be better off using a small sd card for the logos (fits in a .70c envelope).  I think most people use them now anyway.  

[phorum_junkie*]

You do not need a separate Paypal account, you just need add the email address for the new id to Paypal, you can add up to 8 if you wish. You have to keep an eye on communication though as many of the notifications will automatically go to the primary email address. You can also use the same email address in Paypal as you are using now, it doesn't have to be the same as the ebay registered email address, I sell on 3 ids but have all payments going to the same email address in Paypal.

If these services are being sold already on ebay then do a completed items search and then you will see what sort of prices things go for, how and in what categories they list and what your sell through rate is likely to be.

[anartaddict]

Is this thread just an advertisement for your services?

[au.j001]

Thanks Phorum, I will do that.I haven't tried selling on multiple IDs before. 

I tried a completed item search and thought it looked promising, but there aren't enough people doing it to tell for sure -- and they are also fairly new IDs. Which I hope doesn't mean people try it, then crash and burn through bad feedback or something.  Nobody is really doing websites in the way I was thinking, more the 'fully stocked' kind, which is a bit like pyramid selling. 
 

Anartaddict -- No, this isn't an advertisement.  I was after people's opinions before I start listing. 

I have done all this work in the past but only in B & M, where I was able to quote per job.  Now I only do it for a handful of previous customers and family, so still am creatively and technically able, but I  no longer live in an area where a B & M would be viable. 

With ebay sales quite slow I was looking at branching out.    It's a challenge trying to formulate a simpler payment strategy to suit ebay, obeying their rules and making sure I don't work hours for slave rate.