on 12-06-2024 07:22 PM
Hi, just checking in with other EBay users for comment. I am based in Australi and ordered goods from a US seller in March this, almost 3 months ago. The seller sent the goods via the EBay assigned carrier and were lost once they arrived in Australia. The carrier has deemed the parcel lost and I have requested a refund but neither the seller or eBay are willing refund me. How is this lawful and how do they get away with it. I’ve complained on twitter and I keep getting different excuses including that it is now outside the 30 day money back guarantee. The way I see it, they simply refuse to refund you within the 30 day period and push the obligation back on the seller even though it was not the sellers fault or responsibility once the goods left their door. Now it’s oat the 30 days they closed my case and say that I’m not eligible for the money back guarantee. I’ve gone to twitter and the app itself. The conversation is now about 30 messages long and they still refuse to act. Don’t use EBay. If you have an issue like this make sure you reach out to the Australian Competition and Consumer Commision for information on how to raise a complaint and follow up with the relevant State government ombudsman. It is simply
not good enough for a company to behave in this way. Australian consumers should expect far better ethical standards.
on 13-06-2024 06:15 PM
Ok so best not trust anyone even if they have followed up with a commitment to refund. That was the only process I was aware of at that point. I just assumed I just that I would have re-course with eBay if the seller did the wrong thing and didn’t follow through.
on 13-06-2024 06:28 PM
@markthomson35 wrote:Ok so best not trust anyone even if they have followed up with a commitment to refund. That was the only process I was aware of at that point. I just assumed I just that I would have re-course with eBay if the seller did the wrong thing and didn’t follow through.
The MBG is very clear.
Assuming is not going to go anywhere.
You have re-course within eBay for a limited period of time - this is the platform you are purchasing from - and is totally swayed for the buyer - if you follow their policies.
The Seller has his/her own interests - but also must abide by the ' rules ' selling on this platform.
Trust the ' rules '.
on 13-06-2024 06:31 PM
Some sellers, particularly Chinese sellers, will tell you anything to stop you opening a claim until it's too late.
Not all sellers are honest and helpful -maybe most are, but not all
on 13-06-2024 06:37 PM
Too bad Judy has retired...
13-06-2024 06:39 PM - edited 13-06-2024 06:40 PM
Maybe because I am getting older and my eyes are not as good as they once were and I been using a phone.
But you are able to research everything non-relevant, but not the MBG, which is relevant?
Pull the other leg, it has bells on it.
on 13-06-2024 07:03 PM
@davewil1964 wrote:Too bad Judy has retired...
Seriously, I'm devastated.
on 13-06-2024 08:13 PM
I prefer my butcher. Costs a bit more but quality is better.
on 14-06-2024 06:40 AM
@markthomson35 wrote:Twyngwyn, I would be interested to know who is actually responsible given it has been deemed lost. For those sellers questioning why I didn’t go direct to EBay within the MGP I can now confirm after going through all the emails that the seller confirmed with me that they had made a claim with DHL and my refund would be processed. Any reasonable person might think that this would be enough. I’m still waiting and eBay are not willing to intervene. Thank you
That's the thing though, isn't it. It sounds as if none of the carriers are prepared to take responsibiliity. From what you have said, it seems that it was lost when in the hands of DAI.
One thing is clear here and that is that the seller was never promising you that they would personally refund you. After you complained, they contacted DHL and for all we know, they may have been told that it would be dealt with. The seller would have had no reason to lie to you because they were never personally liable for this refund, it was in the hands of ebay international shipping.
Once it gets to them and they post it on, the refund should really be on them.
Imastawka made the comment that some sellers, especially Chinese sellers, will promise a refund or to resend goods to buyers in order to ease them past the 30 day mark without making a claim.
That is perfectly true, she wasn't being racist. These boards are full of people who come on to complain about it because of course they have lost their money. Chinese sellers, unlike your seller, have a personal stake in it as their items are not sent via ebay international shipping. So if a buyer opens a claim, they will be personally liable for the refund.
Chasing up postal carriers etc is always a hassle, especially when you're dealing with an international item. But if you're buying on ebay, you don't have to follow that path and I would advise you not to.
Unfortunately, ebay encourages buyers to contact sellers to resolve problems.
But the fact is, you should usually not bother going down that track either.
It may sound harsh but what you need to do with any ebay purchase is if it does not arrive by the estimated due date range, then don't bother with contacting delievry services, don't even bother contacting the seller & especially don't bother waiting more than 7 days max over the estimated dates.
Just go directly into an official ebay claim for item not received.
It won't matter what postal service has it or where it is, not your problem. If you don't have it, then ebay will be forced to give you a refund as long as you follow through.
I agree with you that, given you can show your history of contact with the seller so shortly after the non arrival of the item & given it was actually sent via an ebay service, that a human supervisor should have intervened before this to issue a refund. Did you actually chat to a live human on ebay?
I can understand that after all that has happened, you're feeling like you never want to use ebay again but if you do, remember next time if anything goes wrong, take no prisoners, don't contact selelrs, don't listen to sellers. only deal through an official ebay claim & make that claim asap.
on 14-06-2024 07:05 AM
springy... I agree with most of what you say.
However not the part about eBay issuing a refund.
They are under no obligation to do so unless an MBG Claim is made... which the OP failed to do.
on 14-06-2024 08:52 AM
@repentatleisure1952 wrote:springy... I agree with most of what you say.
However not the part about eBay issuing a refund.
They are under no obligation to do so unless an MBG Claim is made... which the OP failed to do.
Yep, I realise that.
However, given that mark can show the correspondence with the seller from a date a week after the estimated delivery date and given that it was ebay's own shipping service which failed to deliver, it would have been nice if a discretionary payment could have been made in this instance.
The item was ordered in March and I presume was not slated for delivery till maybe mid April at the earliest. Mark has now been on the app complaining for some time (he says 30 messages long). His 30 days in which to lodge a claim must have run out mid May at the earliest and perhaps even later, could possibly have been towards the end of May. So it isn't as if he is 3 months over the 30 day limit, he has probably only missed out by a matter of a few weeks.
To me, ebay is very black & white and I usually have no problem with that approach to things, except for the fact that ebay is always cautioning the buyer to contact the seller first to resolve problems, when it is the world's worst advice.