Selling obvious fakes

[kirra5550]

Why does EBay continue to allow obvious fakes to be sold?

[melbourneclearance]

Not impossible that the 2 with the same serial number were really 2 different watches from the same mould.

Find his supplier and your ticket there may be paid off in just one auction.

[imastawka]

Sold.....$850.......64 bids

[padi*0409]

So much for me reporting it as a fake (and having "Nazi" in the title)..............not the first timne and it won't be the last time.     

Hang your head in shame T & S.

[springyzone]

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@*tippy*toes* wrote:

The one that sold for $811 had previously been sold for over $900 a week or so before. Those 2 had the same serial number. The one finishing soon, has a different serial number.

Given they are so rare that he mentions it being a one off, it's interesting to see there are 2 with different serial numbers.

Looks like selling old and fake watches is a lucrative business. Might have to investigate getting into that business!

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You & me both Tippy.

Although I just wouldn't have the heart to do this & I'm guessing you wouldn't either. But that's all that stands between us and being awash in ill gotten gains.

 I'll admit to knowing nothing much about watches & I didn't investigate the details of the listing but some others here in this thread did & the evidence seems to suggest very strongly that this is a fake. And from the looks of it, it didn't take a Sherlock Holmes level of investigation, more some google searches etc

So how come people are out bidding over $800 for these rare watches?

Am I missing something here?

Am I the only person on ebay to whom $800 seems a sizeable chunk of cash?

If I spent that amount, I'd be expecting some authentication or at the very least I'd be doing a minimum of googling, if only to discover how many of these watches seemed to be in existence and I'd want to see a photo of them somewhere else besides ebay sales pages.

People possibly trust him as he seems to be a dealer in rare watches but really, if others have reported his listings maybe ebay should at least ask to see certificates of authenticity or some such.

[countessalmirena]

springyzone, so many people are too trusting. Collectors of items ought really to know something about the specifications and "tells" of fakes in their field, but all too many just don't.

I have a bit of an edge in being able to determine that this particular watch was a fake, but there are some obvious details that would inform a reasonably intelligent person prepared to do just a bit of research which would have given it away.

It's quite frustrating to see people selling fakes getting away with it.

I collect Georgian silver, and as a sub-set of that, there's a particular female silversmith whose work I collect... but because her work is incredibly popular, there are fakes abounding, even to the extent of her mark being faked on top of other makers' marks (or added when there's a worn mark or no mark). This was being done even soon after her day - almost two hundred years ago! I only buy her stuff if I have assured myself that the mark is not a later addition, that the item itself is consistent with her work, and if certain other criteria that I don't publicise are met.

I also want a Georgian-era Chinese rose famille bowl. I've been looking for 2 years, and haven't found a genuine one yet (save for one that was almost £2,000 - well and truly over-priced), and one that might have been genuine, although I still felt not quite convinced. Fakes are rife in this field!

I believe buyers need to be diligent, but eBay has a responsibility to act on reports of fake items if the reports are credible. in this case, eBay failed to act, and I'm going to have to agree that it's a shameful example of T&S's implicit complicity in criminal activity OR simply incompetence.