on โ02-10-2021 07:26 AM
Long story short, bought a phone on eBay. Seller looked suspect to begin with but I took a chance.
Seller provided tracking number which stayed stagnant for days. I eventually file 'item not received' complaint.
A few days ago while at work, I get an email from eBay saying the item was delivered at 10.43 am.
Sure enough, no phone in my mailbox. I check our security cameras. Nothing delivered that entire day.
I update eBay on the scam details. Meanwhile check with Australia post. They inform me seller addressed package to "The Resident" an apartment complex. I live in a house. They also put the return address as Kogan.
I am assured by eBay I will get my money back. It's happened before (though not this elaborate) so I am not too worried.
Well, unbelievably, Paypal issued me today with a 'courtesy refund' and told me the item WAS delivered to my address! Good news for the scammer!
Just be wary about buying guys, because these crooks ARE getting paid!
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on โ02-10-2021 07:50 AM
Iphones are a field where buyers should be particularly alert. So many scams are reported here. It is highly recommended to only buy iphones from really reputable sellers, even if they might cost a bit more.
on โ02-10-2021 07:34 AM
@mostly_music wrote:Long story short, bought a phone on eBay. Seller looked suspect to begin with but I took a chance.
Your very first sentence, makes me think Paypal or Ebay shouldnt refund purchasers for scams like this. you say ''Seller looked suspect to begin with but I took a chance.'', So why should you get a refund if you already know they are dodgy.
As long as there are buyers who buy, even though they suspect a problem, there will be scammers. They love you
on โ02-10-2021 07:50 AM
Iphones are a field where buyers should be particularly alert. So many scams are reported here. It is highly recommended to only buy iphones from really reputable sellers, even if they might cost a bit more.
on โ02-10-2021 08:08 AM
Ah so I deserve to lose my hard earned money? That's kind of you.
on โ02-10-2021 08:16 AM
@mostly_music wrote:Ah so I deserve to lose my hard earned money? That's kind of you.
Well sadly to say, if you give your money to someone who ''looked suspect to begin with'', in my opinion yes you do deserve to lose it. There were obviously red flags for you to have that opinion in the first place.
on โ02-10-2021 08:50 AM
I can only shake my head in amazement.....why would anyone complete a transaction when there were alarm bells ringing from the very beginning.
Tough love maybe, but you do not deserve your money back.
on โ02-10-2021 09:11 AM
You clearly do not care about your own 'hard earned money' when you choose to support someone who you believe to be a scammer just to see what happens
Nor do you care about anyone else's money who comes after you and gets scammed because you made the choice to help keep the scammer in business
You knowingly made a bad choice and expect members here to feel sorry for you?
on โ02-10-2021 09:21 AM
Seller looked suspect to begin with but I took a chance.
There is where the problem started.
I wouldn't go as far to say you don't deserve the refund, you probably took the chance knowing you had the MBG as backup.
But it all could have been avoided, had you listened to your instinct.
And unfortunately you have now furnished the scammer with more means and motivation to scam others.
on โ02-10-2021 09:58 AM
I'll say up front that I don't necessarily agree with some of the other posters on this, in that I think a money back guarantee is a money back guarantee. It is designed to cover just this sort of thing, where someone is scammed or else does not receive the goods as ordered and paid for.
It's no use ebay putting in some wishy washy, vague clause such as 'We won't cover you if we think you should have detected the scam because it was obvious'.
The bottom line here is if it was that obvious, you'd expect ebay to pick up on it and not allow the listing in the first place.
This is the same sort of thing where we sometimes see boardies mention that if someone buys from a seller with eg 95% positive feedback, they don't deserve a refund because they should have done their research and known that was a risky seller. Again, if it is a highly risky seller, ebay should not be letting them trade on its platform.
Ebay has to have some form of coverage for buyers so that they can have confidence to use the site.
This doesn't mean I don't think buyers should not engage their brain when they buy though. Buyers need to exercise a little bit of common sense. Mostly-music, if you had any bad vibes about the seller, if you thought they might be suspect in any way, then you should have moved on.
There is an ebay guarantee but it is never 100% certain you'll get it till you get it. Your transaction could have gone very wrong. You were just lucky you struck the right ebay rep and had the Auspost evidence. There have been instances on here of buyers having similar things happen, where the goods are supposedly delivered with proof and the buyer has just lost their money.
Even your refund was just a 'courtesy refund'.
In other words, they think the seller sent it correctly but they will give you the benefit of the doubt and believe maybe you didn't receive it.
It's true that each time a scammer gets away with it, they will be encouraged to try the ruse again. But the main reason you shouldn't go ahead with any purchase you suspect could be risky is because there is a good chance you'll lose your money. Don't rely solely on ebay to protect you because that won't always work. It did this time but you were very lucky.
on โ04-10-2021 11:48 AM - last edited on โ04-10-2021 01:55 PM by gewens
How am I expecting members to feel sorry for me? I got my money back. Try reading the post next time.