Someone bid over my $500 max bid and the price shot up to $4000

[chv055]

I put a bid on an item and my max bid was $500 then someone outbid me when I opened up the automatic bid history I could see the $510 then the same user bid again and the bid went up to $4000  How can this happen? I thought the bids were supposed to go up in increments not straight up to their maximum bid

[collect247]

Of course the seller is shonky the whole listing was shilled lol and made out as if the buyer never paid what a load a rubbish.

I have a lot of spare time in between selling and buying so I investigate and look for listings like this one.

Don't forget I'm an ebay employee thug and it's my job hahaha.

[digital*ghost]

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@collect247 wrote:

Of course the seller is shonky the whole listing was shilled

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How was it shilled though? Why would a shiller immediately bid at least $4k on a listing that was sitting at $500? 

If the shiller was in cahoots with the seller, or the seller themselves, they'd know what the reserve was, and they would know no one else had bid high enough to reach it yet, so why would they bid an amount that is guaranteed to immediately outbid everyone else, almsot certainly by thousands of dollars?

[lyndal1838]

I'm with you on this one digi......I just cannot see how the seller is shonky.....and I said so way back in the thread.

He knows what the item is worth and has now set the price accordingly.

[repentatleisure1952]

" and made out as if the buyer never paid what a load a rubbish."

How did you arrive at that conclusion?

[lyndal1838]

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@repentatleisure1952 wrote:

" and made out as if the buyer never paid what a load a rubbish."

How did you arrive at that conclusion?

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If the buyer was going to pick it up he may have decided not to do so after inspection.....quite OK underthe ebay rules.

Crow I really think you are reading too much into this

[collect247]

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

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@repentatleisure1952 wrote:

" and made out as if the buyer never paid what a load a rubbish."

How did you arrive at that conclusion?

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If the buyer was going to pick it up he may have decided not to do so after inspection.....quite OK underthe ebay rules.

Crow I really think you are reading too much into this

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The seller left a negative positive feedback for the buyer that didn't pay.

"Was the highest bidder and didnt pay or communicate'' is what the seller said in the feedback ok.

To me this was all a set up just to try and get other bidders to bid and it back fired,simple as that and thanks to my great detective work well I'm positive this was what happened hahahaha and if no one agrees I don't care.

[digital*ghost]

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@collect247 wrote:

The seller left a negative positive feedback for the buyer that didn't pay.

"Was the highest bidder and didnt pay or communicate'' is what the seller said in the feedback ok.

To me this was all a set up just to try and get other bidders to bid and it back fired,simple as that and thanks to my great detective work well I'm positive this was what happened hahahaha and if no one agrees I don't care.

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Ok, so what do you know or see that no one else does? I'm genuinely curious here, because I just don't see it - I see the opposite of what you do.

I see absolutely zero evidence of shilling, can find no logical reason for a shiller to have bid the way the highest bidder did, nor does the seller's post-sale behaviour track with someone who has shill-bid their own item.

Who would want to put a negative comment on one of their alternate profiles, or agree to have one purely for the "aesthetics" (i.e. you might argue the positive is there to give the appearance of the seller being legitimately mucked around, but the majority of shillers that leave each other FB leave normal, pos FB, plus when liars are worried people will figure out the truth, they overcompensate with too many details because they're hyper-aware of all the ways they think they're indicating they're not being truthful, which generally means they wouldn't be so subtle as simply mentioning it in FB left). Plus, someone who goes from auction to BIN at their desired price is usually someone who's trying to prevent being mucked around by NPB's.

[repentatleisure1952]

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@collect247 wrote:

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

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@repentatleisure1952 wrote:

" and made out as if the buyer never paid what a load a rubbish."

How did you arrive at that conclusion?

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If the buyer was going to pick it up he may have decided not to do so after inspection.....quite OK underthe ebay rules.

Crow I really think you are reading too much into this

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The seller left a negative positive feedback for the buyer that didn't pay.

"Was the highest bidder and didnt pay or communicate'' is what the seller said in the feedback ok.

To me this was all a set up just to try and get other bidders to bid and it back fired,simple as that and thanks to my great detective work well I'm positive this was what happened hahahaha and if no one agrees I don't care.

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I saw the false positive.

All that indicates is that both you & the seller are not aware that sales on eBay Motors.com are non binding...either party can walk away.