Suss Seller????

[fdifino]

Hi.. I just won a guitar for $700 . Very cheap for this guitar  The seller did not post a pic but described the guitar ok so I bid.  He had nominated $157 postage but as he is in Melbourne and so am I, I sent him a msg before the end  to point out that postage should only be around $20..or else I could pick it up... 

Now after winning, he then sent me a total of $1714.....which means that the postage would now be $1014...

I pointed out his error and he replied reducing it back to $157.....and when I replied that I could pick it up he confirmed $700....  My problem is that his communications have grammatical errors and do not read well so I obtained his ph no & suburb from eBay which confirmed that he was indeed in the adjacent suburb...but his ph no just drops out when dialed.  I have tried to text him with no response

I am now concerned that the seller may be from overseas and has highjacked a local account.  I have offered to pick up the guitar and pay cash but he wants payment first..then I can pick up but he wont give me his address until he has payment... I know that if I pay Paypal it should be covered but it is a real pain having to wait for refunds.

 Hey I just looked up his 'other items' and found that he has another guitar IDENTICAL under "Fender Telecaster Electric Guitar"  still with no photos.... 2 day sale...

Should I pay or report to eBay???.... gee the guy could be legit and inexperienced and I may be doing him a disservice but I smell somthing.....  what do you guys think?

[fdifino]

Dear fdifino,

it not the fact of been easier just my security is all. But if you want to paypal that fine as soon as payment in will meet in upwey still today if want your call the whole bank deposit would have been easiest option on my behalf i could have iou confirmation immediately and i gotta put money in my bank anyway for bills etc. But yeah if paypal payment confirmed today can meet today

- bigbadfuzzie

[lyndal1838]

If you use paypal and pick the item up you are not covered by paypal and neither is the seller.

You MUST pay for delivery to have paypal coverage.

[fdifino]

but the big question still is if I pay by paypal   AM I STILL COVERED BY PAYPAL?

[lyndal1838]

If you pay for delivery and the item is posted then yes, you are covered. BUT NOT IF YOU PICK IT UP!!!!!!

[fdifino]

and if is a scam, even if I am covered by Paypal, it puts ne annd Paypal through unnecessary stress too....and this guy is just going to continue to advertise until he finds someone who will pay him his way

[fdifino]

but if I pay by Paypal, and cant pick it up because he has no address am I still covered?

[lyndal1838]

What part of the above statements are not clear???

YOU ARE NOT COVERED BY PAYPAL IF YOU PICK THE ITEM UP.....NEITHER IS THE SELLER.

If you have the item posted you are covered by paypal if things go pearshaped....and it is no stress for paypal.  They are used to disputes.

If you are so undecided about it all just give it a miss.

[thecatspjs]

You are not covered by paypal if you pick this item up in any circumstance. 

If you do not pay for delivery on an ebay/paypal invoice for any item you are not covered.

If you do pay for the item and delivery via paypal and then make alternate arrangements via ebay messages to pick it up anyway, it is likely you will also not be covered.

If you do pay for the item and delivery via paypal and then you do not receive the item (which seems extremely likely to be the case) then you may have buyer protection if the sender cannot provide proof of post to paypal.  

If you do pay for the item and delivery via paypal and then receive the item and it is a cheap knock-off you will likely have to pay to have the item authenticated to prove that it is a replica.  Given there is no photo and little description in the listing, a not as described case will be more difficult to win, than if there were clear photos of the goods and an adequate description.

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[lyndal1838]

Better sit down Cats.....I've given you another kudos.

This must be the 2nd time this year we have agreed on anything,

[kopenhagen5]

I think fino is concerned there is no PayPal coverage even if sent, because of an earlier post stating that now pick up is mentioned in ebay messages, no coverage.

Keeping in mind even with coverage, depending on what lies the seller may use in a case or send an empty box with signature, PayPal may see in favour of seller and it could take you 6 months to try and sort out.

Definitely with belinda, it just rings alarm bells all the way. If you can't pick up, walk away.

If that is direct copy n paste, with all those grammatical errors, I think the person is new Australian or on a visiting visa and as you suspected a Hijacked account. The account hasn't been used for some time prior to this as well.