What ever happened to common courtesy?

[jessojoj2005]

What has happened to common courtesy , I put a bid in for an item a counter bid was sent back to me which I replied too , the auction ended and the Item was re-listed with no word from the seller , I have since put a new bid on the re- listed item and have still not heard back from the seller . Call me old fashioned but a quick reply from the seller thanking me for the bid but saying it's too low is to me simply courtesy and is bordering on being plain rude . Because there was no transaction I could not give feedback against the seller .

[mbselections00]

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@fixnwear wrote:

Hi springyzone,

to answer your question:

Yes, you would think the seller would set the offers on auto to make their life easier.

But, maybe some of them are curious to see what (or how low) some people will go to.

What I have found over the time - when making offers on a very rare occasions, is:

If it looks like the seller is only a hobby seller and obviously have other means to earn a living - offers are almost always knocked back, or reduced price for a dollar! They don't have to agree to anything, almost always don't care if their item sells in a hurry or not, if at all.

And the sellers with tons of items, usually lower priced ones, I NEVER make an offer even if it's in the listing - as these people obviously depend on that money to survive.

They would probably be the ones to agree to an offer price out of desperation - but that would be called taking advantage.

For a few miserable dollars that I might save - it's not worth sitting on my concience - it would be bugging me no end!

That is why I said to OP it's best not to make any offers, especially on counteroffers - she won't get any poorer by paying the offer price if she really wants that item - and being considerate to the seller at the same time.

I'm sure they all have to work hard to create their listings.

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Wow, you are a very thoughtful, considerate & understanding buyer !  Thank you

Hubby has another ID we use for what I call garage sale type stuff - so I would just comment that on that ID, anything sold is a bonus, so I am in fact happy to consider most reasonable offers on that ID - just because I want to get rid of the 'stuff '.

What I find on this ID, I list everything with Make an Offer & I do get a little annoyed at times with buyers who offer around $1 - although I try to take into account they possibly have no idea of the fees etc involved in selling.  I am always polite with my first Counter offer and explain why I can't/won't accept their offer.  All-be-it there is limited space to comment on the counter offer.  If they make another unreasonable offer, the next counter offer is sent with little explanation

I don't use auto responses as I find them far too impersonal and the main reason I use Make an Offer at all is actually intended for those buyers making multiple purchases of either the same or a variety of items - in which case they can include a note & I do consider these offers more favourably shall we say.

I have no doubt that buyers who are also sellers - or have at least sold recently, have a far better understanding of how the system works and of course the fees.  I don't honestly believe ebay educate buyers very well.  I also understand most buyers who find what they want, just want to proceed with purchase asap at the cheapest possible price & that's fair enough too  

Just my thoughts of course and not all sellers would agree with me . . . . . . . .

[digital*ghost]

Was there a note from the seller on the original counter-offer details? Adding a note is optional, so there may not have been one, but when I used Best Offer and sent a counter-offer, I would usually include a note to let the potential buyer know that - in a nutshell - their first offer was below my minimum, and the counter-offer was my minimum, meaning my counter-offer was the lowest I was prepared to go (so obviously wouldn't entertain lower offers).

To be totally honest, if that was ignored and I then received another, lower offer from the member, I would actually be thinking that was a bit rude, and possibly even outright decline and block them from purchase all together. 

They may or may not have been clear about it, but I thought I'd mention it just in case it may explain why they haven't responded to further offers. 

[jessojoj2005]

Thanks to all those people who responded to my original message , I appreciate all the feedback and differing views from the posters . Thanks

[jessojoj2005]

There was no note from the seller when they made the counter offer

[lyndal1838]

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@jessojoj2005 wrote:
Yes I made a counter offer , I wasn't expecting to see the item re- listed before hearing back from the seller . Thanks for telling me how it is on EBay .

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Was your counter offer lower than the counter offer made by the seller?   If so, then that is why the seller did not reply.  If a seller counters your initial offer then that is the lowest they will accept.   There is no point in making another offer below that.

Also, how close to the end of the listing did you make your second offer.  If the listing ends before the seller has replied then all offers expire.  The seller doesn't just end the listing and relist for the fun of it.

It seems to me that you have taken offense at a process you just don't understand.

[jessojoj2005]

Yes my counter offer was lower than the counter offer made by the seller but I thought that offers counter offers would be made until the seller has gone as low as his limit is then I would be informed so by the seller . Or maybe your right I don't understand the EBay way .