Why Bother Having an Item Posted Button?

I purchased an item last week and within an hour I received a tracking number and the notification that the item had been posted. However, days went past and there was no change in the tracking information on the Aust Post track page. Aust Post said it is likely that the seller got a tracking number online but has not actually posted the item, they said contact the seller.

 

So I contacted the seller yesterday afternoon and he said he just posted it that morning, yet still no tracking movement today. Has it been posted?

 

Obviously a tracking number is not good enough to signify posting, as you can just get one online now, apparently.

 

A system loop-hole?

 

Oh, and does anyone know if you have to wait, if you are a seller, to transfer money from paypal to their bank and then withdraw it from their bank? All this time delay seems perfect for a scam.

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If a seller uses to Ebay postage label, it shows as posted immediately.  Nothing the seller cxn do about that.  Do not blame the seller fot that.  Out of their control.

 

If the seller had posted within their handling time there is no problem.

 

It is a problem with the ebay postage labelk system and certainly mot a problem the seller can control.

 

If the seller is a new seller or has not sold for some time Paypal have a 21 days hold on their funds.  This does not mean they can wait that long to post your item.  They are not supposed to wait that long but new sellers wouls be unaware of this.  Give them a break and if i doubt contact the seller

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Hmm..  ok .. thanks for that Man Wink so it maybe a system problem .. seems a little silly Man Indifferent

 

What do you concider a reasonable time to post an item? And what is "handling time? time to buy sticky tape? LoL

 

Ya, it is a relatively  new seller (3 mths I think it was)

 

Maybe I should contact the seller? Man Wink

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It shows the handling time on every listing, eBay came up with the term so lol at them

 

The buyer would consider whatever the handling time shown to be reasonable or they would not have bought 

 

Generally 'handling time' is when the seller needs to post the item within, so if their ad says their handling time is 3 days, they need to post it no later than 3 days after the buyer has paid 

 

Not a system 'problem; as such, as explained, it is how eBay has set it up

 

Could just as easily say (in the old day of printed train tickets) the time shown on the ticket is time you bought the ticket, not the time you got on the train

 

Same way that when a seller prints an eBay lable , that is the time eBay marks the item as 'posted' (just means the lable (ticket) was 'bought' then

 

The seller is also not responsible for the postal delays due to Coronavirus (although there are a few threads on here from buyers blaming sellers for those delays)

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Hmm..  ok .. thanks for that Man Wink so it maybe a system problem .. seems a little silly Man Indifferent

 

What do you concider a reasonable time to post an item? And what is "handling time? time to buy sticky tape? LoL

 

Ya, it is a relatively  new seller (3 mths I think it was)

 

Maybe I should contact the seller? Man Wink


I think most buyers these days expect a post n handling time of within 2 days perhaps 3 at the most.

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It's not only marked as posted when using labels....as soon as I upload a tracking number, system ticks the box as posted.

My postmaster told me yesterday to push my 'handling time' out to 5 days because planes are no longer taking parcels - everything is going by land (due to virus)
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Items are marked as posted, as soon as a postage label is generated by whatever means.  It does not mean the item has been physically lodged with AP.

Who knows, Maybe they tried to lodge the item with AP on Saturday, and like thousands of others found the doors closed.

Maybe they only post  2 or 3 days per week.

Maybe they were waiting for an AP pickup service to arrive

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I purchased an item last week and within an hour I received a tracking number and the notification that the item had been posted. However, days went past and there was no change in the tracking information on the Aust Post track page. Aust Post said it is likely that the seller got a tracking number online but has not actually posted the item, they said contact the seller.

 

So I contacted the seller yesterday afternoon and he said he just posted it that morning, yet still no tracking movement today. Has it been posted?

 

Obviously a tracking number is not good enough to signify posting, as you can just get one online now, apparently.

 

A system loop-hole?

 

Oh, and does anyone know if you have to wait, if you are a seller, to transfer money from paypal to their bank and then withdraw it from their bank? All this time delay seems perfect for a scam.


Depends how it was posted. If in a red box, there won't be any tracking updates unless and until AP scans it. Which could well be when delivered to you, or never.

 

We are not supposed to be wandering the streets at the moment, and there is debate as to whether posting things is essential. I think it is, but I do it when I have definitely essential reasons to go out.

 

From your other posts you seem to have a mindset that every seller is a scammer. Even though you seem to have had quite a few transactions over the years.

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@aussietastic wrote:

I purchased an item last week and within an hour I received a tracking number and the notification that the item had been posted. However, days went past and there was no change in the tracking information on the Aust Post track page. Aust Post said it is likely that the seller got a tracking number online but has not actually posted the item, they said contact the seller.

 

 


In answer to the thread title (Why Bother Having an Item Posted Button?), the very simple answer to that is because not everything on eBay, and / or that a seller does, is about the buyer. (And here I just hope this comes as a surprise to fewer people than I expect Smiley LOL Smiley Tongue ). 

 

Marking an item as shipped, or uploading tracking to an order, certainly communicates information to a buyer, something which a seller can not stop unless they don't progress the order (or mark the progress of an order) at all. Speaking from a seller's perspective, I'd personally love it if we were provided with a better range of options to progress orders from "new" to "posted", without just having to pick from those two, because there can often be more stages than that in between. This leads sellers to using the tools they do have to mark or update the progress of an order before it's actually in the hands of Aus Post or any other carrier. (On another store elsewhere, I have "new" for orders that have come in and haven't been picked or processed in any way, "in progress", for orders I've started processing, "awaiting reply" for orders that need an answer from a buyer before they can progress, "cancelled" to shift orders that won't progress out of the other queues, and "completed" for orders that have been fully packed and either posted or awaiting carrier pick-up - two of these I was able to create for myself, because they are infinitely useful). 

 

Get 100 orders a day on eBay and need to quickly determine which ones have already been picked, which ones have already have postage labels purchased for them or not? Can't do it unless you either laboriously add special notes to each and every order, one by one, or use the simple tools already there to batch update and create a much easier icon to act as easy to scan visual marker and remind yourself - or notify other staff members - of what has been done, and / or still needs to be done.  

 

These are examples of how eBay tools are useful for the seller, it doesn't just mean only high volume sellers find them useful for one reason or another, and I also still recognise they are imperfect for both buyer and seller - the fact still remains that these updates can communicate incorrect information. It would be infinitely better if instead of "Your item has shipped" or whatever the notification says, as soon as a postage label is created or tracking added, the email just says "The seller has supplied tracking for your order, get more updates here:.... " or something like that. I also think some sellers do themselves a disservice by creating labels days before they'll be handing off the mail and uploading the tracking - we all need to be mindful of the information we are communicating with buyers, and to be honest if I wasn't sending the same day I provided tracking, I would be inclined to send the buyer a quick message about it.

 

As for handling time... I think I just outlined a few reasons why it's more than just "time to buy sticky tape". You know, some items actually take time to prepare for shipping. One of the items I sell is chain - I can't just grab it and whack it in a bag. I have to measure it out and wind it up again onto smaller spools. If I get several people buying multiple lengths in a day, I'm spending a lot of time measuring and spooling chain. Handling time also includes any other circumstances that mean the seller needs time to both prep and hand over the order to the carrier. Not all sellers can pop into a local post office at least once a day.

 

Some sellers need to prep all the orders that have come in, create shipment labels, submit them to a carrier and then book in a time for pick-up, which can't necessarily happen every day. 

 

Some of these issues may or may not apply to your particular seller, but I wanted to post this info anyway, as it seemed like the two main questions I responded to were framed as rhetorical questions, when they absolutely have genuine answers. 

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Hmm… do you mean estimated delivery time shown? it does not say handling time on the main seller page that I can see

 

from postage tab-
"* Estimated delivery dates include seller's handling time, origin postcode, destination postcode and time of acceptance and will depend on postage service selected and receipt of cleared payment. Delivery times may vary, especially during peak periods

Umm… it says "includes" handling time .. not specific alone .. so if it says 7 days estimated delivery time .. this includes handling (includes-comprise or contain as part of a whole) and the date listed was today .. not that that worries me Man Tongue

 

ya sure .. if someone was going to post a cheque, I would say you wait until the cheque is cleared and then delivery time begins .. does anyone here use anything other than paypal? which is virtually instant .. it think you would be crazy not to .. over the years it has cost me nothing and saved me many times.

 

hmm.. "not system problem how it is set up" .. Sure, the functioning of the system is controlled by the setup (human input) .. I could be pedantic too tho and say code could be put into a program that would make it seem your computer operating system is faulty (system) not the program setup itself (setup). people make the system and the setup so I see them as one and the same. Man Wink

 

train ticket? hmm.. interesting analogy .. however the process of buying the ticket and the validating of the ticket (showing it has been used) are two seperate events not combined into one

 

its not really about coronavirus or the time it takes Aus Post to deliver, it is more about a box being marked posted when it hasnt Man Wink

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