pitney bowes postal scam

[ag4440]

the global shipping program is a scam

[4channel]

Hello again imastawka ,

You said:  "4channel,  stop already with the GSP bashing.

All you're doing is dragging up old threads, to no advantage."

Bit over the tp don't you think, using the term  "GSP bashing." This thread is not that old and it is still being read.

You said : "We get it, that you don't like it."

It's not a cause of me not liking it. I am hearing the ebay community and their frustrations over this thing that is costing people heaps more money and people are avoiding auctions that have Global Shipping because they just cannot afford it.

You said: "Just get over it.  Don't use it.   Simple

It's not going away"

I hope that ebay will  at some stage review their connection with this organisation and listen to it's members who are hurting and frustrated.  We have a right to speak our minds.

[imastawka]

Ebay don't care.  It's making money out of it.

And this thread was 12 months old when you dragged it up again.

Try to stick to one current thread please

[k1ooo-slr-sales]

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@4channel wrote:

This thread is not that old and it is still being read.

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this thread was started over 2-1/2 years ago on 26 September 2014, and the thread had not had a post for more than one year when you posted . . . . . . I think that more than qualifies this as an old thread.

How do you figure that it was still being read? (other than by you).  I looked at the list of threads on the buying board (yes stawks, I do have time to spare) and found that this one would have been listed at around 850th on the list of threads.  The only way members would find that is to trawl through the list of threads OR do a board search for "GSP". . . . . . certainly not indicative that it is/was still being read.

The reason your post on this thread has views is because it was bumped to the top of the list of threads once you posted.  If nobody else posts on it for one year it will drop to 850th again.

Having been started over 2-1/2 years ago, and having been dormant for over one year, it should be locked . . . . . . . now who should I speak to to petition for old threads to be locked 

By the way channel, locking the thread will not stop it from being read.

[4channel]

You said: "this thread was started over 2-1/2 years ago on 26 September 2014, and the thread had not had a post for more than one year when you posted . . . . . . I think that more than qualifies this as an old thread."

Wrong, not a year.  last post was 05-07-2016. So that's 10 months. Not a year and def not over a year.
Also,  canberrafisher had posted prior to that on  05/06/2016. I added my comments to it with my thoughts.

You say:  ". now who should I speak to to petition for old threads to be locked "

Please, if it makes you feel better, have the damned thing locked. Petition away till your heart's content.

[imastawka]

Are you American?

The last post was on 7th MAY 2016,  not 5th July

Makes it over a year in my book

[k1ooo-slr-sales]

you wrote: 

Wrong, not a year. last post was 05-07-2016. So that's 10 months. Not a year and def not over a year.

I'll let a screen grab decide this once and for all:

Now, 7th May 2016 to 10th May 2017 is . . . . . . more than one year . . . . . . isn't it?

channel, are you reading and posting on these boards from a mobile?  I find that mobile view of threads sometimes uses month-day-year format for when posts are posted.  If this is the case then you mistake is understandable.

[k1ooo-slr-sales]

yep, I reckon mobile view may be at work . . . . . . definitely a trap for new players

[schroedinger-cat]

Why buying from seller, who use it?

Easy: Once and never again! Now I am warned.

I just brought from a seller in the UK, who had no idea he is using it (apparently he made somewhere in eBay an accidental "X".

Same with me: I had no idea that this Pitney Bowes exists, and after oven an hour in a chat with eBay, I had a supervisor explain to me, what it is - I just could not believe it - SCAM is the only word which came to mind!

Since the seller had no idea he "uses" the scammers of Pitney Bowes, he send me the item directly, angry at himself that he made a wrong selection in eBay (so he thought) so that he received only local postage from me and has to send it now to Australia.

I however had to pay a pile of money, which the seller did not receive - neither he or I knew - and could not imagine - that a scamming service like Pitney Bowes could possibly exist.

Anyway, since we are not using the scamming service from the scammers, I am hopeful that Im will receive (after a chat of more than 1 hpour with eBay) a refund from the scammers. It was just incredible how defensive the eBay supervisor (the normal operator had no idea herself what was going on) was of the scammers, defending their service again and again. I just can't believe how sick it is that the seller has to send (and I have to pay it) the item locally and the I have to pay postage (at inflated rates with ahndling) to get the item send overseas.

SOme real WISE GUY came up with new scam idea.

Cheers, Peter

[*tippy*toes*]

Have you been living under a rock? Global shipping has been around for years. Not as long in the UK as the US. I doubt your seller hit the X on anything. EBay kindly opted all US and then all UK sellers into it without telling them. Some realised and opted out. Others stayed with it as it offers them a lot more protection as a seller. Some still have no idea they are opted in.

The big mistake sellers make is not entering the weight and dimensions into the listing. If they did that, the cost isn't much more than USPS or Royal Mail. Maybe a dollar or 2 tops. Trying to get sellers to enter that info is like asking them for their first born.

Given that your seller opted to send the item direct, you have lost the postage you paid to Global Shipping. There is not a chance in the world you will ever get that back. It's hard enough to get it back when you return an item for refund, let alone for a transaction going ahead but you thinking you paid too much.

If you buy something large and bulky, lets say a TV, it's actually WAY cheaper to have it sent via GSP. So don't write it off if you are looking to buy something big. It's also blatantly obvious in the listings that the seller is using the GSP. It's even obvious in your search results.

Don't worry, a certain someone will be along shortly to comfort you and reinforce how terrible GSP is. 

[k1ooo-slr-sales]

@schroedinger-cat

the Global Shipping Program (GSP) was introduced on eBay USA and later the UK.

eBay were keen to get sellers who were not shipping overseas to have a process where they were ‘protected’ against negative feedback, low DSRs, claims for Item Not Received and claims for items damaged during shipping.  All the reasons why some sellers didn’t want to ship internationally.  So, they just opted many sellers into using the GSP without the sellers knowing.

There are indications that the GSP is used on a listing, both in the search results and individual listings.

Now, as for your item, I can see a few problems having the seller bypass GSP after the sale.

The first one is that when the GSP is used on a listing the GST will not be collected by eBay at checkout.  Because it is shipped domestically to Pitney Bowes (PB) it is PB that will collect the GST when they prepare the paperwork for exporting the item to Australia.  Not only that, they will charge you a fee for collecting the GST and preparing the paperwork.  Not only that, but that fee is subject to GST as well.

The second problem I can see is that when the GSP is included in a listing both the seller and buyer form a contract with PB.  So, even if your seller sends to you direct you might not get a cent back of the money paid to PB.

Spoiler

by the way, I’m not that certain someone that tippy said would come along and comfort you.  I like to post facts and not outbursts, rants and repetitive posts.