why does ebay feedback often close before a delivery has been made

With long delivery items Ebay feedback can close within the delivery period so if no delivery is made you cannot give bad feedback. This has happened once and the items were never delivered. It appears to be happening again. This practice appears to encourage and make it easy for bad sellers

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@4channel wrote:

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Yes, you beat me by some months. We were both 18 years younger then. One thing I've learnt in the past 18 years is how important it is not to betray  my fellow man and deny / hide from him or her something which could be of benefit.

 

 

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A man was once asked  if he would like to be the new Pied Piper. He said .... "Give me the flute". And instead of putting it to use he snapped it in half and said ....  "Now telll me where you'd like it?"

 



@tazzieterror wrote:

 

I bet it gets tiring performing all the mental gymnastics that you do in order to convince yourself that 1 + 2 โ‰  3

 

I'm sure eBay didn't start removing feedback just for the fun of it!  Smiley LOL

 

Your insinuation about betrayal is nothing more than hyperbole and it's telling that you choose drama and exaggeration over objectivity. By the way, your link is broken.

 



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Now you're resorting to this ad hominem attack again! And you're incorrect / qutte misleading about how eBay is removing negative feedback. The page that you linked to in your post tells a different story from what you're trying to portray. Sure it says they'll remove some feedback in light of what has happened in the world. This willl be based on the seller and will be looked at differently depending on which seller has what kind of history and or turnover.. But where does it prove that this is happening because of sellers being stung with negatives?? It doesn't say that! It gives no account of this! And how does it fit in with your insinuation that buyers who get extended feedback times will use it to some kind of nefarioius advantage of theirs?

 

So the link was broken. Anyway here it is again. I like to be optomistic here and hope that you'lll take something from it.

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https://www.press-citizen.com/story/opinion/contributors/writers-group/2017/05/09/most-grievous-sin-...

 

 

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Now you're resorting to this ad hominem attack again! And you're incorrect / qutte misleading about how eBay is removing negative feedback. The page that you linked to in your post tells a different story from what you're trying to portray. Sure it says they'll remove some feedback in light of what has happened in the world. This willl be based on the seller and will be looked at differently depending on which seller has what kind of history and or turnover.. But where does it prove that this is happening because of sellers being stung with negatives?? It doesn't say that! It gives no account of this! And how does it fit in with your insinuation that buyers who get extended feedback times will use it to some kind of nefarioius advantage of theirs?

 


My goodness, more drama and gymnastics! eBay announced they'll remove non-positive feedback for stock-interrupted and postage-delayed transactions, reports here on the forums by both buyers and sellers indicate that's exactly what's been happening ("why'd my neg get removed - postage took forever!") yet you want to deny that's what eBay meant? Smiley LOL



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My goodness, more drama and gymnastics! eBay announced they'll remove non-positive feedback for stock-interrupted and postage-delayed transactions

 



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Finally! You're beginning to tell it like it is.  Well, in only one part though! Yes,  eBay has  announced they'll remove non-positive feedback for stock-interrupted and postage-delayed transactions. I saw that. But there's nothing there on that page about a barrage of buyers stinging sellers with negatives is there!

 

 


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reports here on the forums by both buyers and sellers indicate that's exactly what's been happening ("why'd my neg get removed - postage took forever!")


 Please asssemble a report for us on what buyers and sellers have been indicating and also try and fit that into your erarlier stance about longer feedback extension (restoration to pre May 2008 TTLFB of 3 months) will be used by  buyers to rip off sellers.

 

 


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yet you want to deny that's what eBay meant? Smiley LOL

 


I'm not denying what eBay meant. I know exactly what eBay meant and I know exactly what you're trying to do. Those are two different things!

 

This is just really all about your stance on the TTLFB issue and my suggestion of it being extended and your dislike for the idea. You're playing with words and distorting a statement made by ebay. Actually your adding something else to it.

 

 

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@4channel wrote:

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Now for other people who are interested.  Due to the much longer time for items to come from the US (and I'm almost on my 6th week waiting for an eBay parcel from the US), we need that extra month. It was 3 months in the old days and sometimes it saved the day.


Extending the feedback window would be silliness on eBay's part. The only people it would accomodate are those buyers who've waited an excessive amount of time for deliveries, meaning a higher proportion of negatives for sellers.

 

Given that sellers are already having to deal with the fallout of huge shipping delays these past months, giving unreasonable buyers even more time to whinge about it in feedback would be counterproductive.



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https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Buying/With-Corona-affecting-postage-Ebay-should-go-back-to-3-month...

 

 


 

 

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@4channel wrote:

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yet you want to deny that's what eBay meant? Smiley LOL

 


I'm not denying what eBay meant. I know exactly what eBay meant and I know exactly what you're trying to do. Those are two different things!

 

This is just really all about your stance on the TTLFB issue and my suggestion of it being extended and your dislike for the idea. You're playing with words and distorting a statement made by ebay. Actually your adding something else to it.

 


I have no idea what conspiracy it is you think you've uncovered my involvement in, but what I've pointed out is very straight forward: eBay stated, under the section headline of

 

Stock Interruptions and Postage Delays

 

  • We will automatically remove your Late Shipment Rate defects, Seller Cancellation defects and related Negative or Neutral feedback received for transactions between 1 March to 30 June 2020 (blubrication mine)

And sure enough, that's what they've been doing, as reported by numerous topics on these boards. There's no spin here - that is what has been happening - very simple.

 

And you can keep quoting that post of mine from the other topic all you want - my position received a lot of support from other participants in that conversation - not all viewpoints did. I'll state it again to save you hiding it next time - heck, I'll even rubricate it for you to make it easier to find:

 

"Extending the feedback window would be silliness on eBay's part. The only people it would accommodate are those buyers who've waited an excessive amount of time for deliveries, meaning a higher proportion of negatives for sellers."

 

If eBay are needing to remove unfair feedback when there's a 60-day window for it to be left, a 90-day window isn't going help anything.

 

And yes, I know you like to give sellers a little green-badged "pat-on-the-back" when you think they've done right by you, but these are uncertain times and we all have to make sacrifices somewhere. Maybe try to think of the occasional post-feedback window delivery as your little sacrifice, 4channel. And there's nothing to stop you sending them a nice message thanking them for their efforts, is there?



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You're just trying to rummage around for any tiny morsel to use.

And yes again I said what eBay has written. But where are you statistiics to show that buyers have really been stinging these sellers. I don't doubt that it has happened as panic buyers and buyers with anger issues and crooks will do stupid and bad things. But your portrayal of the issue is wrong and inaccurate.

QUOTE: "little green-badged "pat-on-the-back"

 

 

Oh gosh I just love your choice of words. FYI it's about rewarding good sellers for their dilligence. It's also about .....  *SIGH* what's the flaming use in telling you?

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My reward is the money I get.

 

Green dots on a screen, while good for dilution if I ever get a neg, are simply green dots on a screen. They are not redeemable for anything, even Power Seller status, as that is determined by transactions.

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@4channel wrote:

You're just trying to rummage around for any tiny morsel to use.

And yes again I said what eBay has written. But where are you statistiics to show that buyers have really been stinging these sellers. I don't doubt that it has happened as panic buyers and buyers with anger issues and crooks will do stupid and bad things. But your portrayal of the issue is wrong and inaccurate.

QUOTE: "little green-badged "pat-on-the-back"

 

 

Oh gosh I just love your choice of words. FYI it's about rewarding good sellers for their dilligence. It's also about .....  *SIGH* what's the flaming use in telling you?


Oh, you're back to demanding statistics and figures again despite not offering any in your numerous posts on the subject?

 

The burden of proof is on you and the OP - you're the ones with a point to make! Where are your statistics to show the 60-day feedback window "...appears to encourage and make it easy for bad sellers"? All you offer is "you're wrong...OP is correct...I think..." etc etc.  C'mon...facts and figures please...graphs and tables! Abide by the standard you demand of others, please.

 

I'm simply refuting your claim, and my evidence is that eBay are removing problem feedback, plenty of sellers on here have been complaining about INR cases for in transit items, while there have been plenty of buyers complaining about "dodgy" sellers because their international purchases haven't arrived after a couple of weeks.

 

But please, entertain me with more of your creative logic, and more defense of an OP who by his own admission wanted to leave questionable (and likely-to-be-removed) feedback.



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@tazzieterror wrote:

@4channel wrote:

You're just trying to rummage around for any tiny morsel to use.

And yes again I said what eBay has written. But where are you statistiics to show that buyers have really been stinging these sellers. I don't doubt that it has happened as panic buyers and buyers with anger issues and crooks will do stupid and bad things. But your portrayal of the issue is wrong and inaccurate.

QUOTE: "little green-badged "pat-on-the-back"

 

 

Oh gosh I just love your choice of words. FYI it's about rewarding good sellers for their dilligence. It's also about .....  *SIGH* what's the flaming use in telling you?


Oh, you're back to demanding statistics and figures again despite not offering any in your numerous posts on the subject?

 

The burden of proof is on you and the OP - you're the ones with a point to make! Where are your statistics to show the 60-day feedback window "...appears to encourage and make it easy for bad sellers"? All you offer is "you're wrong...OP is correct...I think..." etc etc.  C'mon...facts and figures please...graphs and tables! Abide by the standard you demand of others, please.

 

I'm simply refuting your claim, and my evidence is that eBay are removing problem feedback, plenty of sellers on here have been complaining about INR cases for in transit items, while there have been plenty of buyers complaining about "dodgy" sellers because their international purchases haven't arrived after a couple of weeks.

 

But please, entertain me with more of your creative logic, and more defense of an OP who by his own admission wanted to leave questionable (and likely-to-be-removed) feedback.


Come on mate give it a rest. Pushing your point? You've given your opinion. Chill

And now I'll prepare for your comrades to get their claws out

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C'mon mate, I'm just replying to ol' mate - not sure why you think you need to police the forums. Give the copper act a rest, 'eh mate?


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Yeah mate no worries mate ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘Œ

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