Anyone can identify these two porcelain factory marks?

[skatingbagman]

I have two porcelain figurines. One looks like a Lladro, the other looks French, but I'm not sure. Would you know who is the maker? I can't find the maker's marks anywhere.

Thanks

[kopenhagen5]

Might help to post a pic of the figurines as well. 

[skatingbagman]

[skatingbagman]

Thank for responding. I uploaded the two pictures. May help.

Cheers

[imastawka]

Could the Lladro-lookalike be Nao?

Nao appears to be the name for Lladro seconds.

http://www.elportalporcelana.info/NAO4.htm

The lady with the guitar seems to be very damaged, with the guitar neck being badly glued and repainted.

[skatingbagman]

It's the marking I can't work out. Just 4 lines in blue. Never saw anything like it. It is probably not a fake, or there would be an impression of Lladro or Nao marking. So I just don't know.

The lady with the guitar is badly damaged, I know. It's I am just curious about the factory mark. Iv'e had this before, just can't remember.

[countessalmirena]

I'll do some searching; I don't know that I'll turn up any new information, but I will try.

Such a pity about the damaged damsel with guitar. It's a pretty piece even though I don't recognize the factory/maker.

[skatingbagman]

Thanks for your bother. I know there are many spinoffs of Lladro which are all really Lladro, like Nao, Rosal, Zaphir.

Let me know, if you find something.

Thanks a lot