$16b better off under Turnbull plan

nero_bolt
Community Member

The Abbott government's pared-back broadband plan is three times more cost effective than Labor's ambitious scheme and would leave Australians $16 billion better off, according to the first independent cost-benefit analysis of the national broadband network.

 

In a scathing verdict on the Rudd and Gillard governments' plan to introduce fibre directly to 93 per cent of premises, the cost benefit analysis finds the policy is so expensive it would barely leave the community any better off in net terms than if broadband investment remained frozen at present levels.

 

The much-anticipated report finds households and businesses will benefit from quicker downloads but the much-vaunted societal benefits of fast broadband – such as improvements to health and education services – will probably be extremely limited.

 

The cost benefit analysis panel, led by former Victorian Treasury head Michael Vertigan, modelled the estimated costs and benefits of expanded broadband access from 2015 to 2040.

 

 

Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull, who commissioned the analysis, will use the findings to justify his decision to pursue a "multi-technology mix" broadband network using a combination of fibre to the premises, fibre to the node, hybrid-fibre coaxial, satellite and wireless services.

 

Mr Turnbull regularly attacked Labor for failing to commission a cost-benefit analysis before launching the national broadband network, the biggest infrastructure project in Australia's history.

 

The report finds the multi-technology mix model outperforms a fibre to the premises plan in net economic benefits in 98 per cent of scenarios.

 

A multi-technology mix NBN would cost $24.9 billion to launch from 2015 compared with $35.3 billion for fibre to the premises (FTTP), the report finds.

 

A multi-technology mix would deliver download and upload speeds of 20-100 megabits a second, while FTTP would deliver speeds above 100Mbps.

 

The report finds the most cost-effective option would be an unsubsidised launch in which the free market delivers high-speed broadband to 93 per cent of homes. This would have a net economic benefit of $24 billion, but would leave 7 per cent of premises in regional and rural areas without fast broadband.

 

Providing fast broadband to the bush through wireless and satellite services – as envisaged under both Labor and the Coalition's plans – will cost nearly $5 billion but produce only $600 million in economic benefits.

 

This suggests an alternative model for a government committed to fast broadband for all Australians at a low cost: subsidising the introduction to the bush while leaving private providers to serve metropolitan areas.

 

Compared with the unsubsidised launch scenario, the multi-technology mix model has a net cost of $6 billion ($620 a household) and fibre to the premises has a net cost of $22 billion ($2220 a household).

 

Australians would be only $2 billion better off, in net terms, than if there was no further launch of broadband under a fibre to the premises model. They would be $18 billion better off under a multi-technology mix.

 

The report finds a multi-technology mix is more "future proof" because it can be upgraded to fibre to the premises later if demand for fast broadband booms.

 

"The [multi-technology mix] scenario leaves open more options for the future because it avoids high up-front costs while still allowing the capture of benefits if, and when, they emerge," the report finds.

 

The cost benefit analysis finds most of the benefits of fast broadband – most notably video downloads – will accrue to private users within households and businesses. By contrast, hospitals and schools require relatively low bandwidth to deliver services. 

 

As well as Mr Vertigan, the expert panel members were economist Henry Ergas, former Australian Communications Authority chairman Tony Shaw and former eBay Australia managing director Alison Deans.

 

Mr Vertigan said the findings of his report show that cost benefit analyses should be mandatory before construction begins on major public infrastructure projects.

 

Labor communications spokesman Jason Clare said the cost-benefit analysis was "tainted" by the involvement of figures such as longstanding NBN critic Henry Ergas.

 

"It's hard to take the report seriously when three weeks before the last election Malcolm Turnbull said he would get this report done by the government body Infrastructure Australia and instead what he has done is got some of the most vociferous critics of the NBN, as well as former staff, to write this report," he said.

 

Mr Clare said the government had a "myopic" view that fast broadband was just about video games.

 

This is about setting us and Australia up for the future. That is why Japan, South Korea and China and New Zealand are doing it and even in Indonesia."



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/cost-benefit-analysis-shows-turnbull-plan-has-...




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Save money -> provide a lemon. Makes sense (not).
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yes what a shock - handpicked "independent" review by turdball (how many is this now number 6?) and finally finds one that says what he wanted it to say - shock, 

 

2 of the comments in todays SMH

 

rubbish, LNP's policy was no NBN at all until it saw it as a vote loser.
LNP then changed it to a made-up quasi-NBN to pretend they had a policy on telecommunications.

they have now spent a lot of money on reports using unknown assumptions to now back up their position that NBN-lite was cheaper.... we all know it was cheaper for a reason.\

it basically means their version will have to be upgraded to FTTH in about 20 years time instead of doing it now.

 

Pity there is no link to the report. Since this article doesn't bother going into the assumptions the report made about use and change of use into the future, it is difficult not to believe it was a report that was meant to deliver a conclusion (Labor waste) and worked backward from there.
Most people with enough technical know how in the relevant industry know that the approach pursued by sell-out Turnbull is deferring expensive remediation into the future (the copper from the node into the premises), creates a wilderness of high power use/high maintenance boxes on street corners, and is ill equipped to deal with changes in demand going forward. It is a vision-free, market fundamentalist approach that desperately tries to give the private industry backers of the coalition a piece of the action, on tax payers expense. Too many infrastructure developments where private business was considered the panacea for efficiency and cost-effectiveness have turned out to be unmitigated disasters (just look at the various bankrupt road tunnels) for this to be seen as nothing else than a made to order political pamphlet.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/cost-benefit-analysis-shows-turnbull-plan-has-...

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I think this is hilarious. Two people only, interviewed (from 2 test areas, there were more test areas than those two) quoted in the C&P nero posted from The Australian.  Your bias is showing The Australian.

 

Test areas were chosen for their geographical differences. The one I live in is on the coast, hilly, basalt rock.

 

Follwoing is from the token person representing Tasmania.

 

 

Mr Lovelock  [Retiree] said it was likely, had the project been market-driven from the beginning, that Tasmania and other regional areas would have been the last to gain access.

 

“It’s purely a population and demographic thing,” he said.

 

“There are more people aged over 65 here than even in South Australia. I’m not downloading two-hour movies or anything like that.”

 

Mr Lovelock’s plan allows a maximum download speed of 12Mbps and upload speeds of 1Mbps. If he wanted the full 100Mbps offered by the NBN technology, he would need to pay another $20 per month.

 

Mr Lovelock’s plan allows him about 5GB of downloads every month and he estimates he uses about 80 per cent of it.

 

Was the investment worth it?

 

“I suspect I would have done similarly well under Turnbull’s plan,” he said.

 

“In terms of the taxpayer investment, the thing that always concerned me from the beginning was the fact it seemed to have been worked out on the back of a coaster on a VIP flight with Kevin 747.”

 

 

So why not interview a spokesperson from a Tasmanian library, council, medical centre? A  Tasmanian family with, for example, 3 children - 1 at Uni, 2 at high school and ask them what they think of their NBN service? 

 

Not a retired  person who has very little personal need for an internet service of any type. One wouldn't expect a person like that to pay $20 extra per month for the highest speed pack. However, for a business, e.g. professional photographer who sells their photos globally to magazines via the internet, spending $20 a month for highest speed would not even rate a mention.

 

p.s. Mr Lovelock, Abbott has made the same number of intl flights as Rudd did in his first 12 months in office.

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That was hilarious Deb 😄

 

So much truth can be told with comedy.

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From the delimiter link posted above:

 

...The Coalition is now supporting a vision in which up to a third of Australian premises will be served by the HFC cable networks of Telstra and Optus, and Fibre to the Node and Fibre to the Basement used in other areas not already covered by Labor’s FTTP approach.

It’s likely that the Coalition’s ‘Multi-Technology Mix’ model will deliver many Australians better broadband over the next five years. However, even NBN Co executive chairman Ziggy Switkowski — a Coalition appointee hand-picked for the role — admits portions of the network will require upgrading in as short a period as five years’ time. The MTM mix does not represent a long-term solution to Australia’s telecommunications needs.

 

 

 

 

...."admits portions of the network will require upgrading in as short a period as five years’ time."

 

HOW MUCH IS THAT GOING TO COST?????????????

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Is this report talking short term or long term? Did it take into consideration how long it was likely to be before  the whole system would need to be upgraded and restructured  in order to keep up with expanding technology, business needs and customer demand? 

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Turnbull - sooner, cheaper and more afforably.Smiley LOL (from the youtube clip above)

 

 

Heart my NBN (FTTP, thank you Labor). I am on the lowest speed, I could go up to a higher speed (25/5 mbps) for $5 extra per mth.

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

Is this report talking short term or long term? Did it take into consideration how long it was likely to be before  the whole system would need to be upgraded and restructured  in order to keep up with expanding technology, business needs and customer demand? 


Short term.

 

Short term NBN ( However, even NBN Co executive chairman Ziggy Switkowski — a Coalition appointee hand-picked for the role — admits portions of the network will require upgrading in as short a period as five years’ time. The MTM mix does not represent a long-term solution to Australia’s telecommunications needs)

 

Short term Tony

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Why you shouldn't believe everything you read in News Corp publications.

 

Adjudication 1515: Jamie Benaud/The Daily Telegraph (December 2011)

 

The Press Council has considered a complaint that three separate articles in June and July 2011 about aspects of the National Broadband Network (NBN) were inaccurate. The complaint was that the first article understated the number of NBN customers taking up offers, the second misstated the costs of not taking up current NBN offers, and the third made misleading comparisons of the costs of connections.
The Council upheld all three complaints on the basis they were inaccurate and, in two instances also misleading and unfair, and that the errors were not corrected promptly when brought to the newspaper's attention

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