on 18-08-2017 04:11 PM
5G phone network: Expert concerned by lack of understanding of potential health effects
here is an expert on the dangers of the 5G network.
on 07-06-2020 06:29 PM
on 07-06-2020 07:16 PM
In some applications 5G enable systems will enhanced control and influence in an ever uncertain world - or enable the rich to be liberated from an uncertain world by ensuring the riffraff are controlled, as so cosy sentiment cascades down the "listers" of the strata of society
5G ccc ( citizen command & control or big nanny ) systems will enable proof of innocence for the innocent and certainty of conviction of the guilty - at least where ones location is critical, what one says is critical , what one is viewed as doing is critical.
Also will allow real-time computer analysis of actions and generated organising of controlling influences through device prompts to ever eager computer controlled 3rd party psych-influencers of all kinds to gently guide the complient citizen in all ways approved , useful , efficient - at least defined by those who control the system....
Then I woke up
07-06-2020 09:43 PM - edited 07-06-2020 09:44 PM
Volts, milli- or otherwise aren't the issue. Unless they produce ionising radiation they are harmless. Even if your bed is against the wall.
I used to be a sparkie and I almost did a Physics degree, so I know a bit about it. You?
on 08-06-2020 11:29 AM
and more interesting reading
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020/05/fact-check-5g-waves-do-not-attack-red-blood-cells.html
on 08-06-2020 06:49 PM
Re: 5G phone network: Expert concerned by lack of understanding of potential health effectsin reply to rogespeedyesterday
@davewil1964 wrote:Volts, milli- or otherwise aren't the issue. Unless they produce ionising radiation they are harmless. Even if your bed is against the wall.
I used to be a sparkie and I almost did a Physics degree, so I know a bit about it. You?
Well being an ex-sparky you would have an idea about electricity and EMF. And no doubt more than the average person davewill1964. But knowing that, you'd be aware that cancer clusters and illnesses where mobile phone towers and high-voltage power lines are often reported and people from scientific and professional backgrounds have voiced their concerns about this,
on 08-06-2020 06:59 PM
@cezm wrote:and more interesting reading
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020/05/fact-check-5g-waves-do-not-attack-red-blood-cells.html
Thanks for that. I had a read. Unfortunately it avoids (raather fails to address) a lot of the facts that people are concerned aboout
Below Dr. Devra Davis addreses the issue very well. I quite enjoyed the second one by Dr. Davis which is presented by The University of Melbourne.
5G, Wireless Radiation and Health: A Scientific and Policy Update
Dr. Devra Davis (HUJI)
2020 Expert Forum: Wireless and Cellphone Radiation and Public Policy
Tel Aviv University
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AeSoC6la9c
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"The truth about mobile phone and wireless radiation" -- Dr Devra Davis
3,842,147 views•Dec 3, 2015
64.7K subscribers"The truth about mobile phone and wireless radiation: what we know, what we need to find out, and what you can do now" Presented by Dr Devra Davis, Visiting Professor of Medicine at the Hebrew University Hadassah Medical School, and Visiting Professor of Medicine at Ondokuz Mayis University, Turkey.
on 08-06-2020 10:20 PM
on 09-06-2020 10:52 AM
@4channel wrote:
@*kazumi* wrote:I lived most of my life in the country, surrounded by forests, and clean paddocks. No high voltage power lines, no chemicals used on land, and yet I got breast cancer when I was 44, and lady just up the road got ovarian cancer and died.
Pretty much everybody gets cancer sooner or later, some sooner; that is if heart attack does not kill you first.
So, some people who live near these towers will get cancer, that does not mean the tower caused it. Some people get cancer after black cat crossed their path...................
The country is a healthier place to live no doubt. Sorry to hear of your past illness. Keep in mind that people in country areas have a lower cancer risk than city and suburban people. However your case is just one and so is the lady up the road. What other factors can be taken into account? Under arm deodorant with its aluminium content has been linked to breast cancer. Chemicals and additives in foods, chemicals in our carpets, furniture, plastics can all be contributors as well. There have been cancer clusters around mobile phone towers more than there have been in areas that are not.
Shouldn't we be putting people first before profit?
That myth was debunked 20 years ago when it was doing the rounds via email. The story was that the aluminium in the deoderant was clogging the pores up, so "toxins" couldn't be released from the pores. The results being a build up causing cancer. It was a crock of doo dah, and there were many other myths created at the same time to scare people.
on 09-06-2020 10:59 AM
@4channel wrote:
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:4channel wrote: It seems that we are definitely in the age of stupidity.
Couldn't agree more. https://www.centralwesterndaily.com.au/story/6730240/group-blames-failing-plant-life-in-north-orange...
The problem is, Orange doesn't actually have 5g yet.
The link you provided is dead but here it is wirh ABC
https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episodes/5g/12190382
Just one lady that got it wrong and news reporting it as such. I wonder what could be causing thr plants not to thrive. The tower was just a normal mobile phone tower. I haven't heard of plants being affected by cell phone tower EMF before. However people are different from plants.
It's called severe drought, level 5 water restrictions (soon to be level 6), and heavy frost.
There is no mobile phone tower in that area.
on 09-06-2020 11:20 AM
@*tippy*toes* wrote:
@4channel wrote:
@*kazumi* wrote:I lived most of my life in the country, surrounded by forests, and clean paddocks. No high voltage power lines, no chemicals used on land, and yet I got breast cancer when I was 44, and lady just up the road got ovarian cancer and died.
Pretty much everybody gets cancer sooner or later, some sooner; that is if heart attack does not kill you first.
So, some people who live near these towers will get cancer, that does not mean the tower caused it. Some people get cancer after black cat crossed their path...................
The country is a healthier place to live no doubt. Sorry to hear of your past illness. Keep in mind that people in country areas have a lower cancer risk than city and suburban people. However your case is just one and so is the lady up the road. What other factors can be taken into account? Under arm deodorant with its aluminium content has been linked to breast cancer. Chemicals and additives in foods, chemicals in our carpets, furniture, plastics can all be contributors as well. There have been cancer clusters around mobile phone towers more than there have been in areas that are not.
Shouldn't we be putting people first before profit?
That myth was debunked 20 years ago when it was doing the rounds via email. The story was that the aluminium in the deoderant was clogging the pores up, so "toxins" couldn't be released from the pores. The results being a build up causing cancer. It was a crock of doo dah, and there were many other myths created at the same time to scare people.
https://www.cancerwa.asn.au/resources/cancermyths/deodorants-breast-myth/