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All eggs from caged hens will be removed from the shelves of Woolworths over five years as the supermarket responds to growing consumer demand to address animal welfare, the supermarket chain will announce on Friday.

 

Battery hens lay half of the eggs sold by Woolworths and will be phased out by 2018, affecting 12 caged egg suppliers that will have to shift to a sustainable cage-free model.

 

The change will mean a rise in egg prices, with caged eggs being the cheapest option, but is expected to be applauded by animal rights groups and ethical consumers.

As part of Woolworths' poultry overhaul, caged eggs will no longer be an ingredient of any home-brand products.

 

The treatment of chickens used for meat will also have to adhere to the minimum standards set by the RSPCA.

 

This includes adequate access to water and food, adequate space and freedom from ''discomfort, pain and distress'', according to the guidelines.

 

Woolworths is not the only chain addressing the treatment of chickens.

 

Coles announced it would stop selling company-branded caged eggs in October last year, accounting for 350,000 hens that were freed from cages.

 

Consumers can now buy ''welfare-friendly'' eggs from the Coles-branded products.

 

The popularity of caged eggs has fallen noticeably in recent years as consumers demand a stronger commitment to animal welfare. In 2009, caged eggs made up 70 per cent of all eggs sold in Woolworths; they now comprise 50 per cent.

 

A report from the CSIRO on poultry standards shows that caged chickens have a limited ability to perch, fully stretch or lay eggs in a nest. Diseases are also difficult to contain in caged environments, the report said.

 

But less than five years ago, consumers would not have known if they were buying free-range, barn-laid or caged eggs.

 

It was only in late 2009 that Woolworths started clearly labelling how their eggs had been farmed, designating free-range, barn-laid and caged eggs.

 

A report by consumer group Choice found the average cost of cage eggs was 43¢ per 100g, while the cost of barn-laid eggs was 80¢ and free-range eggs 93¢. The report, released this week, found free-range eggs cost more than double the price of cage eggs, but the number of chickens varied from the recommended 1500 chickens per hectare to 20,000 per hectare.

Woolworths' Select brand of free-range eggs have 10,000 chickens per hectare.

 

Macro, another of Woolworths' brands, lists a chicken stocking density of 1500 birds per hectare – the recommended standard for free-range.

 

As of last week, the stocking density will now be labelled on all Woolworths Select free-range eggs.

 
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so we don't like our chickens to suffer, but it's ok for rats to?

 

isn't that kinda - ????

 

they're all animals.

 

why do we care about the welfare of some animals and not others?


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so we don't like our chickens to suffer, but it's ok for rats to?

 

isn't that kinda - ????

 

they're all animals.

 

why do we care about the welfare of some animals and not others?


Well you'd be surprised how many care about the welfare of rats too, I certainly do. There are whole websites devoted how to 

get rid of them humanely.  And fish too -    many care how they feel pain.  

It's just that this is a thread about  chickens, and not covering the whole animal kingdom. 

And no, don't ask  me how I know fish feel pain, lol, but I believe they do. .

 

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so we don't like our chickens to suffer, but it's ok for rats to?

 

isn't that kinda - ????

 

they're all animals.

 

why do we care about the welfare of some animals and not others?


They are not indigenous to Australia,Crikey, and they rare a real threat to our native fauna. I could - and have - killed rats, but I wouldn't keep them, shut up in a tiny cage for years on end. 

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Hens in cages are being farmed for a profit.

 

Rats are pests,no one invited them to come live under their hen house.

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I bet Flashy would.

 

She likes rats.


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@crikey*mate wrote:

so we don't like our chickens to suffer, but it's ok for rats to?

 

isn't that kinda - ????

 

they're all animals.

 

why do we care about the welfare of some animals and not others?


They are not indigenous to Australia,Crikey, and they rare a real threat to our native fauna. I could - and have - killed rats, but I wouldn't keep them, shut up in a tiny cage for years on end. 


Ok, fair enough

 

I've never killed a rat, set baits and that though, and I have no problem with it.

 

My perception of a rat is that they are dirty and smelly and spread disease and contaminate food. That may be false, but that is my perception of them and how I can justify killing them.

 

 

 

So what you are saying is that it's ok to kill animals if they are a threat? lots of animals are a threat, even native ones. (are chickens native to Australia?)

 

It's not the rats' fault that they are an introduced species, and the little baby rats aren't migrants, they're now Australian too.

 

 

Apart from as pets, Do you think the reason why people don't keep them locked up in tiny cages for years on end is because there is no economic use for them?


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Apart from as pets, Do you think the reason why people don't keep them locked up in tiny cages for years on end is because there is no economic use for them?

 

That may well be true - I can only speak for myself.

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They do use rats for testing new prescription drugs on (and fluoride overdoses LOL) and some cosmetics on don't they? So there is a bit of animal cruelty.

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They do use rats for testing new prescription drugs on (and fluoride overdoses LOL) and some cosmetics on don't they? So there is a bit of animal cruelty.


true, I didn't think of that.

 

I associate people's outrage for animal testing with bunny rabbits though, never occured to me that people would be worried about rats. and all the media and advertising around it always has really cute animals, like bunny rabbits (aren't they an introduced species too and a pest?) or little cute fluffy thing, harp seals etc.

 

 


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Apart from as pets, Do you think the reason why people don't keep them locked up in tiny cages for years on end is because there is no economic use for them?

 

That may well be true - I can only speak for myself.


ok, so you can justify killing rats because they are a threat to our fauna and flora, is that right?

 

really not sure how that relates to chickens in cages though... sorry - (i'm shaking my head at myself)

 

 

I dunno, you source your eggs from what seems like a cool place.

 

I'm actually more thinking of how people comparing the caged chickens with ones still packed in and bred for eggs - they're justifying a level of suffering to make themselves feel better because it doesn't really upset them enough to abstain from consuming eggs altogether.

 

the chickens still suffer. those conditions are just not natural.


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