on 09-11-2014 10:12 AM
on 10-11-2014 05:19 PM
on 10-11-2014 05:33 PM
@johno322004 wrote:
lies? its aproven fact, want news links?
as nothing you have posted yet could in any way shape or form be considered news - then no thanks. If you have this proof that you keep banging on about that halal certification sponsors terrorism then please go ahead and contact Asio or brandis.
on 10-11-2014 05:43 PM
We recommend saying that you found out Cadbury’s Chocolates are blessed by an islamic imam and you cannot eat food blessed by a false god. If you are a Christian, you can say that the Bible forbids you to eat food blessed by a false god.
Or, in other words, take it back to the shop and lie through your teeth. Great advice to give a Christian.
Cadbury's chocolate is blessed by neither imams nor any Gods true or false before it leaves the factory. It is of course possible that if it was served as part of a meal a prayer might be said over it before serving: "For what we are about to receive, may the Lord make us truly grateful," or - if you are a Catholic - "Bless us oh Lord and these thy gifts which through your goodness we are about to receive". No doubt Muslims have their own form of "grace before meals" but since I can't imagine any self respecting Muslim ever wanting to invite you to share a meal with them, I doubt if you will ever have the embarrassment of having to refuse it.
on 10-11-2014 05:44 PM
@daydream**believer wrote:pic didnt work but it was actually the Halal accreditation certificate for Scholle Industries in SA that makes plastic packaging
Scholle is a global company.
How did you access their accreditation certificate?
How do you know it's genuine. Their website doesn't mention a word about halal, even though they do have facilities in the middle east.
on 10-11-2014 05:48 PM
@johno322004 wrote:
so why is kosher always brought up? funds from kosher tax support terrorists too? lol
Who knows? Maybe some of money from the profits earned from Kosher accreditation fees go towards financing illegal Jewish settlements in Gaza. It's as likely as the Halal = terrorism theory.
on 10-11-2014 05:51 PM
@boris1gary wrote:so would that be like your link to your offensive pic from FB?
Just saying.......
How do you square taht with the next verse in the Koran:-
The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and
strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be
murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on
opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace
for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous
chastisement, [Quran 5:33, Shakir's translation]
on 10-11-2014 05:54 PM
According to the 2010-2015 action plan of this global company:
Products Served: Dairy, Cheese Sauce, Edible Oil Ice Cream Mix, Yogurt, Cream, Milk, Condiments, Liquid Egg, Food Products
As a leader in bag-in-box liquid packaging and filling systems, Scholle understands its customer's needs for growth via product
differentiation, cost improvement and security of supply that ensures your brand equity is maintained.
Scholle Packaging continues to be the largest manufacturer and global supplier for bag-in-box systems supporting the foodservice
industry.
We offer FDA, IMS, AIB and Kosher-certified bags.
Looks like they offer some certified products. That's not a declaration that all their packaging has halal certification.
10-11-2014 06:09 PM - edited 10-11-2014 06:13 PM
@anarkii3 wrote:Well I will only buy maleny milk, and i know others that do too, so for Maleny its been a win.
Why is that? Milk doesn't get certified as halal ( white milk, no additives doesn't need certifying) I just bought Dairy Farmers milk.. no halal label.
A photo of a milk carton/bottle produced in Australia with a halal label please.
on 10-11-2014 06:09 PM
@fatandgreedy wrote:
@boris1gary wrote:so would that be like your link to your offensive pic from FB?
Just saying.......
How do you square taht with the next verse in the Koran:-
The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and
strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be
murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on
opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace
for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous
chastisement, [Quran 5:33, Shakir's translation]
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
But wait! there's more. http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm
on 10-11-2014 06:14 PM
@fatandgreedy wrote:
@boris1gary wrote:so would that be like your link to your offensive pic from FB?
Just saying.......
How do you square taht with the next verse in the Koran:-
The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and
strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be
murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on
opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace
for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous
chastisement, [Quran 5:33, Shakir's translation]
i have seen that quote in the picture many
times but haven't bothered to study it. just took
it at face value
but
it appears it is usually quoted out of context:
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2010/05/quran-532-nazam-and-neglecting-context.html
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/If_Anyone_Slew_a_Person