ABC becomes the story

[davidc4430]

ABC becomes the story after unprecedented week of accusations and high-profile departures

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-27/abc-becomes-the-story-after-high-profile-departures/10310944

Mr Miln is prolly thinking "well that didnt go the way i thought it would"

now, reinstate  Michelle Guthrie and hire a trustworthy chairman.

[chameleon54]

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@johcaschro wrote:

Counting your sheep is probably going to become a bit easier in the future as ever-worsening droughts take their toll.

Ok, so you say you're not an LNP supporter. But you sure talk like one sometimes, so perhaps I might be forgiven for drawing that inference.

Whatever, it's a fact that our present govt is doing all in its power to destroy one of the only independent news services we have left in Australia. It doesn't need for you to admit this is so, the facts speak for themselves.

It would be horrible to lose our ABC and have only the Murdoch press massaging their neoliberal message and presenting McNews instead of the real thing.

People who support the LNP are, by definiton, partly responsible for all sorts of evils which confront us today; from a warming, more drought-prone (and less sheep-friendly) planet, to one which soon might not be able to find an independent news service able to hold the govt of the day to account.

This is important.

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It would appear you and most other contributors to this thread are very strong Labor supporters, ( please correct me and tell me you are LNP supporters if I,m wrong ) and as such, you see nothing wrong with the way the ABC presents biased news and current affairs programming. Looking through your rose ( or red ) coloured glasses, this is just facts about the " dirty, stinking Liberal party " to borrow a line from another popular thread here.

As a supporter and voter of neither of the major parties who is happy to discuss and admit the faults of both, I believe I am able to form a more balanced view of any bias expressed by the ABC. And my view, along with many other people is the ABC has been over-run by supporters of the Left side of politics. It is these people who are destroying the organisation from within by refusing to follow the ABC and the boards charter to remain independent of political or social policy.

All the LNP are doing is calling the ABC board and directors out over this very obvious breach of duty. At the heart of the current fiasco is the editorial written by Emma Alberietchie sic. which the ex Prime Minister claims contains around eight significant errors of fact , resulting in  skewing the article heavily to a left bias. Its not the LNP that got the ABC into its current mess, its the the leftist views of its senior reporters and failed oversight of management that resulted in the sackings. The organisation is in a mess and needs a complete clean out.

[chameleon54]

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@marwi_3023 wrote:
Every drive I make sees more trees being knocked down by farmers. This is in Victoria.
Trees create rain.
How many trees have you planted Chameleon?
Trees protect stock especially those recently born.
Farmers still believe that less trees equals more land but trees actually compensate for the loss of area by increasing the productivity of the land.
Trees lower the water table thus keeping salt from the surface.
South Australia is particularly devoid of trees.
I travel regularly from Peterborough S. A. to Buderim QLD in the last thirty five years I have seen trees disappear at an alarming rate.
In Victoria there are trees farms and although it is only anecdotal all the areas of Victoria with trees farms had very high rainfall this years so much so that farmers I know in the south western district have been complaining about too much rain

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Me Personally ?

The answer is several hundred trees planted, fenced, watered protected from vermin etc.  on my own land. I have also revegitated around 30 acres of fragile land with saltbush ( many thousands of plants ) and watered these through a drought.

On top of that my wife and myself owned a garden nursery for 16 years. As part of this business we propagated and sold many thousands of trees each year to farmers in the area along with providing expert design and advice on tree planting to local businesses and farmers who wanted wind breaks .

I also volunteered at the local primary school for many years, teaching children tree propogation skills and advising the school on local tree planing programs for which the school won a major award.

On several occasions I took my kids out to tree planting days at local high value wetlands sites, run by a local community group, trying to instill the importance of trees to my kids.

As well as all of this I was chairman of a local community organisation for many years and was involved with exploring broad acre tree planting schemes on marginal farm land. This was around 25 years ago. The scheme looked at forming a trial to ascertain the carbon sequestion capabilities of various tree species and was at the very beginnings of the carbon credits scheme, before any-one had even heard of it. I met with senior public servents and state government parliamentarians in the process of trying to get the trial up and running. Unfortunately it was at the very infancy of the scheme, before any funding was available and the scheme did not get off the ground. But at least we tried.

That's my resume regards tree planting............I think I,ve done my bit.......Not that its a competition, but just out of interest, whats yours ???

[marwi_3023]

I have planted twenty trees on my half acre and now that they are big enough I will be getting prickly acacia for understory.
I worked for nearly a year planting blue gums on tree farms and don't know the exact numbers but it would be thousands if not ten plus thousand

[marwi_3023]

Sorry, I made a mistake with my calculations. A good week would be about thirteen thousand trees planted.
So would have been hundreds of thousands

[chameleon54]

I suspect that the only thing of any real substance we can leave behind when we die is trees. Our houses will most likely get bulldozed in the next hundred years, and " our " land will be owned by some-one else, but a good tree can last centuries.

One of my little joys in life is to go around a bend on the road to my remote farm and see a massive river red gum that dominates the sky line a kilometre away. I owned the farm adjoining the road soon after I left school and planted the river red at a spot where the water runs off of the road for some distance and settles..Over the past three decades it has flourished to become a majestic huge tree, in a place most would not expect to see a giant River Red Gum. It is home to birds including a hawks nest and in time will hopefully become a hollowed out ancient giant.

[marwi_3023]

My house is already over a hundred years old.
It took seven years of trying every year to finally get a group of trees to survive those hot dry northerly wind days.
I still lose the odd one each year even though they look healthy and happy up until that point so I feel that my house is better positioned to survive than my trees.
On the other hand I have some of the most rampant grass I've ever seen anywhere.
I've had years where it is eight foot tall before the swamp like conditions of my yard allow me to cut it.

[marwi_3023]

Saul Eastlake said Emma's article was factual.
In fact the only person who had a problem with the article was Turnbull.
Turnbull is a awful tax dodging over litigious lawyer. A greedy ex merchant banker and a total liar about his affinity for technology except for using apps to keep his conversations secret.
He fooled all the morons that believed that he was the most popular PM.
I'm glad that he is gone.

[marwi_3023]

The ABC has always been stacked in favour of the ruling government.
The government should be removed from having any control over it.

[johcaschro]

"It would appear you and most other contributors to this thread are very strong Labor supporters, ( please correct me and tell me you are LNP supporters if I,m wrong ) and as such, you see nothing wrong with the way the ABC presents biased news and current affairs programming. Looking through your rose ( or red ) coloured glasses, this is just facts about the " dirty, stinking Liberal party " to borrow a line from another popular thread here."

Well I'm definitely not a supporter of or voter for the conservative right wing parties.

You'll have to judge for yourself on this.

I believe in free, govt funded education at all levels. I don't believe public money should be gifted to support private enterprise  eduation of any description. If a person wants to send their kids to private or religious schools, then they should be prepared to pay for it themselves.

I believe in free, govt funded medicine at all levels and believe that all private medical practice should be nationalised. There is something horrible about  for-profit private enterprise medicine making money from the suffering of the sick. There is something noble about a society which has both the ability and the desire to care for all of its people.

I believe in free or maximally subsidised housing for the poor.

I believe that the supply of essential utilities like electricity, gas and water should be nationalised and run by the govt. We were told that privatising our electricity supply would lead to lower prices as free-market competitive forces came into play. But it didn't and never ever was going to. We were lied to.

I believe that prisons should be owned and operated by the govt. To make private profits from incarcerating those who offend against society is, in my view abhorrent. It's the govt's responsibility to enforce the law and to administer penalties.

I believe that all of our mineral resources belong to the Australian people and should not be leased out to be exploited by private companies which in my view steal the profits which rightfully belong to all of us.

I believe that the govt has no role to play in the subsidising, by public moneys, of any religious belief and their various institutions. I understand the complex power interplay between rulers and religions and they both use each other in order to exert a degree of influence and control over people who know no better than to be ensnared in their patently ludicrous and societally damaging mythologies.

So, you call it. What am I ?

[marwi_3023]

Joh, I wish I could give you a million kudos