on 21-08-2014 02:05 PM
ARE YOU ONE OF AUSTRALIA’S 10 MILLION WORKING TAXPAYERS ?
IF SO, PLEASE PAY $1,200 IN EXTRA TAXES EVERY YEAR JUST TO PAY THE INTEREST ON LABOR’S DEBT.
(Personally I would prefer the left and labor voters to pay this debt)
In 2007, when Labor came to power, the Australian Government was COLLECTING more than $1 billion a year in net interest payments on the back of a positive net asset position created by the previous Coalition Government.
Now, we are forced to pay $1 billion a month in interest payments just to service all the debt accumulated by the previous Labor government.
That is means for every one of about 10 million working taxpayers across Australia has to pay about $100 in tax each and every month, or about $1,200 in tax every year, JUST to pay the interest on Labor’s debt
Solved! Go to Solution.
on 24-08-2014 05:15 PM
Nero, Feeding chooks is a waste of time. The little bubble of leftists on here say the same thing no matter what is served up to them.
Squawk and peck day in day out.
I know what you are getting at and the 1 billion a month is real even if they won't see it they will pay for it.
on 21-08-2014 02:20 PM
That is as usual inaccurate . The coalition on taking office doubled the deficit immediately, therefore half the debt was incurred by the coalition . The other point of course being the debt is in fact low and imminently manageable . (well by a decent government , the current lot are chook -raffle challenged it appears )
21-08-2014 02:37 PM - edited 21-08-2014 02:40 PM
Labor did it, oh yeah! Someone could write a song about that.
Is this what your opening post is based on Nero? Labor is mentioned 23 times. 3 times in two short paragraphs!
Australian needs a fiscal reality check
SMH
That is, every one of about 10 million working taxpayers across Australia has to pay about $100 in tax each and every month, or about $1,200 in tax a year, just to pay the interest on Labor’s debt.
on 21-08-2014 02:44 PM
There's hysteria in the air, desperation is setting in, the numbers are all false, lets try a little harder to turn us against each other...lalalalalllaaaaaalalalalalalllaaaaalalalalalllaaaaalalalalalalalaaallllaaaa........
The budget emergency, well not so much an emergency - the debt disaster, well no not really - nobody but the wealthy pays any tax, another lie...so it's back to...well just the same bleep as usual.
Deficit size fetishism: Why Joe Hockey needs to learn economics
The real tax and spending relationship
One outcome of this discussion is that hypothecation is a fallacy — particular forms and amounts of taxes should not be attached to particular forms of expenditure.
Citizens should pay taxes according to their overall ability to pay and they should receive government payments according to their particular characteristics as citizens — unemployed, aged, disabled and so on. The total of these government expenditures will be financed from the total funds raised by taxation and borrowing.
“Treasurer Speak” in recent decades reflects serious conceptual misunderstandings of how economies work and how the functions of the state should be integrated with the workings of the private sector.
The end result has been the use of scare tactics over a wide range of issues, tactics which have no foundation in proper economic logic.
on 21-08-2014 02:45 PM
Now, brushing aside the fiscal realities I mentioned at the outset, Labor simply denies there is anything to worry about. Instead of proposing any alternatives, Labor under Bill Shorten has just given up completely on putting Australia back on a stronger fiscal foundation for the future.
Intent on preventing us from achieving the return to surplus they so often promised but were never able to secure, Labor under Bill Shorten is now even opposing $5 billion in savings initiated and banked in Labor’s last Budget by Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd.
Here are the questions Bill Shorten, Chris Bowen, Tony Burke and the whole Labor Party should be asked to answer:
on 21-08-2014 02:53 PM
on 21-08-2014 06:49 PM
Well done, you two.
on 21-08-2014 07:27 PM
No, I am not one of the 10 million working taxpayers - neither is my eldest grandson. He is one of Australia's 13.5% of unemployed youth. (actuzlly he lives in Queensland, where I understand the percentage is even higher)
Due to cutbacks at his place of employment, he was retrenched from his job as a trades assistant a couple of months ago, has been unable to find work since and is becoming desperate. He has a partner and 12 month old baby to support and is receiving the princely "handout" of $460 a fortnight. The family are trying to help out and Mr. Elephant and I have just sent him $500 which we can ill afford. He and his partner are an exceptionally strong and devoted young couple but you don't need to be a psychologist to imagine the strain it is putting on their relationship.
Next week he is sitting an aptitude test for the Air Force .It's not a job he particularly wants and if he gets it, it will mean a lot of upheavals and enforced separations, but we are all praying he is accepted because it is pretty much his last throw of the dice.
SO DON'T PREACH TO ME ABOUT THE AGE OF ENTITLEMENT ! (yes, I'm shouting.)
on 21-08-2014 07:43 PM
Sadly, that is reality now. It will only get worse (youth unemployment, lack of jobs,) under this Govt.
on 21-08-2014 08:06 PM
does this remind anyone of something said by sloppy joe hockey and repeated by the murdoch press and some others....copied from romney? wouldn't surprise me at all. This is from the Fin Review, september 2012, it ends with the usual clap trap from the IPA but that's to be expected. Like everything that has come from the telesmear and bolts bog or whatever, big on slogans and hate but light on the details which tell the true story.
http://www.afr.com/p/national/infographic_australians_who_don_IiBi6f6xdQiVcDGLGsQJWM
The debate over the “47 per cent” of American adults who Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney says don’t pay income tax caused a firestorm across the US this week.
But like the figure cited by Mr Romney, that number is full of caveats and exceptions rather than evidence that half the population are bludgers.
In the US, once you deduct those who pay payroll tax, including social security and Medicare, about 18 per cent of households don’t pay federal income tax – most of whom are elderly people living on social security or low-income workers who don’t earn enough to have to pay tax.
The figure was even more meaningless given the tax benefits that the rich received in the US, University of Melbourne economics professor John Freebairn said.
“The only traps in the game which Romney didn’t talk about is that most of the tax breaks are really available to the high-income earners,” he said.
And Australians pay the GST and many other forms of levies and taxes in their daily lives outside of the income tax system.
Australian Taxation Office statistics and Australian Bureau of Statistics Census data can help explain a lot about who pays what in this country.
Overall, the average income of those who lodge a tax return but do not have to pay tax is less than $10,000. So many people don’t pay tax because they don’t earn enough.
Almost half of the 7.4 million adult Australians who don’t pay tax are either retirees – who have worked – or students, who are soon to start work.
One third of non-payers are retirees aged 65 and over. Most are likely to be on some form of pension or living off their superannuation and other investments below the income tax threshold.
Another 13 per cent of non-payers are aged between 18 and 24, many full-time students who don’t work enough to pay tax and/or receive some form of government assistance.
Stay-at-home mothers account for another large portion of non-payers. Between the ages of 30 and 44, women who don’t pay income tax outnumber non-paying men by up to three to one.
The results of the Financial Review’s analysis were what you would expect from a progressive tax system, said Patricia Apps, a professor of Public Economics at Sydney University.
“When you look at the group who are not paying tax, it’s exactly the sort of profile you’d expect,” she said.
“A lot of people who aren’t paying tax are pensioners, they are retired.
“They are people who have paid tax, so you have to look at it from a lifetime.
“The other groups are students and families across the distribution of ages when women are working less because they are raising families.”