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I have copied this from the facebook page for those who do not have fb, will post the link as well.


I found this really interesting.



Why is simple relating so difficult? What every parent and teacher should know!

Please read, understand and remember the most important difference in ASD is the difficulty "rapidly processing, multiple information simultaneously" (especially dynamically changing information). As technqical as that sounds, this processing problem is at the heart of many of the ASD traits that make life difficult. Remember this one main factor, and it is easy to understand the sensory overload, cognitive processing problems, and social/emotional difficulties. The message below is in relation to social interaction, but this process issues effects sensory, cognitive, and emotional processing as well. Please read and understand this prinicple. If you have any questions, please ask?

I think what neurotypical people (especially teachers and parents) need to realize is that part of the main reason why children (and adults) on the spectrum have difficulty relating is the neurological differences. Our brains have strong neurological connections between the different brain centers that allow the different centers to simultaneously communicate with one another. This is what allows us to process multiple information simultaneously, most of which is at a subconscious level, requiring minimal mental energy (not aware of it). On the other hand, for people on the spectrum, the neurological pathways between the brain centers are not well developed, making it harder for the centers to communicate with each other. This makes it difficult to process multiple information simultaneously. Whereas we rapidly process multiple this information, at a subconscious (intuitive) level, people on the spectrum have to process "sequentially", a little at a time, at a conscious level. They have to think through what we do intuitively without thinking. Now, they can eventually arrive at the same understanding, but it is going to take longer (delayed processing) and require a lot more mental energy (since they have to consciously process it).

This drastically effects interacting with others (relating). When we interact with someone we have to โ€œrapidly process multiple information simultaneously.โ€ When listening to the other person we are processing the words they are saying, the context they are being spoken in, the tone and inflection in voice, facial expressions, physical gestures, and body language to understand what the person said, and to understand their thoughts, feelings, and intentions. At the same time that we are processing what the other person is saying, we are formulating how we think and feel about it, plus how we are going to respond back. At the same time that we are responding back we have to read the nonverbal cues of the other person to see if they are understanding us and are staying interested. Now, in order for us to focus on the topic of conversation, we have to process most of this "nonverbal information (facial expressions, body gestures, fluctuation in voice, etc)" subconsciously, with minimal mental energy. This allows us to relate with others without much effort. However, for people on the spectrum, they have to try and process bits of this information sequentially, at a conscious level, thinking it all through. Since they cannot process this information simultaneously, the processing is delayed, and only a little bit can get processed, making it difficult to get the "big picture." To try and keep up with the conversation, they can only process "bits of information" at a time, often missing much of the meaning. Sometimes by time the person has processed what was said, and formulated a response to it, the interaction has moved on to different content. Consequently, between not getting all the information, plus delayed in processing it, their responses are often out-of-sync with others. For the person on the spectrum, this can be very mentally and emotionally draining. This inability to process multiple information simultaneously is a major reason for many of the social struggles for people on the spectrum.

For children with aspergers, it is even more difficult. They can be very bright, but still have this processing problem. This is hard for people to understand. They assume that since the child is very verbal and bright, that they must "intentionally choose" to misinterpret instructions, and act differently then others. Much of the aspergers is a hidden disability, masking their difficulties. That's why awareness training for significant people in the child's life can be important.


https://www.facebook.com/autismdiscussionpage

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HI everyone




My son is in his late 20's and it's only now we think he may have high functioning Aspergers. When he was younger I'd taken him to half a dozen specialists, counsellors etc. Various "diagnoses's" included Genius, ADHD, Bi-Polar II, Hidden Epilepsy ... I think the closest we ever got to a real diagnoses was the last psychologist we saw when he was about 16. The guy did all kinds of tests and came to the conclusion my son had an extremely high IQ (the highest he'd seen personally) and excelled in certain areas but also had a learning disability but he couldn't say what the learning disability was.



But recently a psychologist friend said he displays HFAspergers.



He is incredible at maths, physics and science. He completed Year 12 in these subjects in Year 9



But he is also socially awkward (get him to talk about science and he can talk for ages), doesn't look people in the eye, besides those he knows well, sometimes has a very hard time with physical contact, is impulsive, and has a lot of sensitivities i.e food and chemicals. He also has a great sense of humour.



But he is now a grown man. How do I approach this with him?



PS I've ordered the book Be Different.





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anyone have any experience with adult family members who have aspergers?




Yes I do (see above post) but I'm only new to this.



Az that was a very interesting article, thank you.

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YW Cat.


If you have facebook, this guy is interesting and he will answer questions, given time.


https://www.facebook.com/autismdiscussionpage


My daughter thinks he is a knowitall but I find the opposite, lol. I think he puts it out there and we take what we want to from it?

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Cat mioux, does he realise that he is different?


 


If he wants to know "what is wrong with me?" then it will be much easier - tell him someone suggested you look at something like mild Asperger's. Adding something like "you know, like Bill Gates and Einstein", should put him at ease if it stresses him out.


 


Then give him a book about it - not too in depth though or he may not want to face up to it.


 


 


If he thinks all is good, you might not be able to talk to him about it at all. After all you can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped.


 


There's a good coffee table book you could leave around - it's called All Cat's have Asperger's.  It is awesome, my boy used to carry it around at school like a security blanket.


 


I live on the other side of Melbourne if you ever need help :-x

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Thanks Az, that's another good resource.



Kiwi thanks for the advice. I'm not sure how my son would respond but he does know he is different. I'm hoping this may come as some kind of relief and maybe he will be able to embrace this 'difference'.



LOL All Cats Have Aspergers. I will look at that too. โ™ฅ




Bless our Aspergers/Autistic kids :-x

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It was a relief to both my husband and I to understand our boy and to undertsand each other.


 


I don't know if I am on the spectrum, but I would be close I think.


 


Let me know if you can't find the book and I will lend you ours.

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Thanks kiwi.



I have heard it is genetic. It wouldn't surprise me if I'm on the spectrum too. I excelled at English and art but for the life of me I still don't understand maths. Attending a party or social situation where I don't know the people very well is very very painful for me. I just can't make small talk and I find it exhausting having to 'chat' to people I don't know well.



Why do you think you and your hubby are on the spectrum kiwi?

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Both of us are science nerds who couldn't pass an english exam to save ourselves.  I love reading, but english the subject is just wrong - or at least it was when I was a kid.


 


I am as unco-ordinated as anything and struggled socially until I was in my 20s.


 


He hates crowds, the unknown amd doesn't understand figures of speech.  He is 50 now and still struggles socially.


 


Basically, we read the books o it and went "Oh, that's me!"

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It is a relief when you have a name for it kiwi.



I've just spoken to my sister who agrees my son may have HF Aspergers but she laughed when I told her I might be on the spectrum too.



But he must have got it from someone.

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