on 25-05-2013 11:47 AM
We have people spreading the hate for everyone from the PM to the disabled and refugees everyday.
Today we have Adam Goodes, who truly lived up to his name.
on 31-07-2015 06:58 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:Would you revel in in the hate campaign if, over a two year period, a significant number of people here decided to hurl personal insults at you every time you posted, based on your ancestry?
But it wasn't based on ancestry, it was based on on field behaviour. And he said it didn't bother him at the time. Now it does bother him, and it's been handled very badly by all and turned into a racial issue. And the bandwagon keeps on rolling until the next thing grabs media fury.
on 31-07-2015 07:32 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
@*julia*2010 wrote:
@colic2bullsgirlore wrote:
@gleee58 wrote:But would you join the mob if you see them booing at a single player for the entire duration of the game, regardless of how he plays?
Yes... but probably not the whole game....just everytime he gets near the ball... have you ever tried to boo non stop for two or so hours????
it happens all the time.
Gold Coast fans have unleashed their ire in Daly Cherry-Evans' direction, but the Manly half-back had the last laugh as his side ran out 38-6 winners at Robina Stadium.
But Cherry-Evans was predictably booed every time he touched the ball and when he appeared on the big screen - or did anything at all.
Yet the Sea Eagles' playmaker appeared to revel in the hate campaign as he helped inspire back-to-back wins that kept Manly's faint finals hopes alive.
Would you revel in in the hate campaign if, over a two year period, a significant number of people here decided to hurl personal insults at you every time you posted, based on your ancestry?
what do personal insults have to do
with booing during footy games or any
other sport?
it was only 10mths ago that goodes said:
ADAM Goodes insists he is unperturbed by the incessant booing he cops from opposition crowds during games, choosing to view it as a mark of respect.
Many of the game's greats have also been the subject of constant booing during games, something Wayne Carey, James Hird and Nick Riewoldt have dealt with in their careers.
Goodes is choosing to believe that is the motivation behind the crowd reaction.
"It hasn't been difficult," he told reporters on Wednesday when asked about the booing. "It's not something that I'm not used to.
"There's been many a time being booed at football grounds.
"Sometimes it's a mark of respect, that the opposition fans don't want you to play well, and every time you get the football.
"It doesn't bother me to be honest.
"It's one of those things where if I pay too much attention to what the crowd's doing, then I'm not really playing my role on the field.
on 31-07-2015 08:31 PM
So it wasn't racist back then, but it is now?
on 31-07-2015 08:58 PM
So it would appear .... weird isnt it .....
on 31-07-2015 09:13 PM
on 31-07-2015 10:03 PM
Did any of those indigenous players who were booed tonight at the MCG throw imaginary spears at the spectators or make obscene and threatening arm gestures at them?
01-08-2015 06:17 AM - edited 01-08-2015 06:19 AM
I was up late last night drinking thinking and the ole grey matter got around to the mechanics of the vilification
conspiracy theory.......(just after I finished piecing together mh370s last movements and decided I knew exactly where it was)
So I was wondering that considering it is very hard to get the radical booing opposing football fans to agree on anything except where the blue will be underneath the stands how the racists amongst them (and there must be oodles given the descriptions, depth and volume that some of the antibooing lobby on this thread seem to think the booing has reached) managed to activate and prolong the booing and then transcend that from team to team to target one individual?
or maybe
The vilification conspirators think that there is a booing army that attends every bloods game just to boo Goodes?
I notice amongst the booers a couple of weeks ago a racial slur was picked up and a fan ejected...... So the booing was
loud enough that it put Goodes off... but was not quite loud enough to drown out the slur....wow now that's organization for you.
I wonder whether an official picked up the slur that got the fan ejected or (heaven forbid) whether one of the other
neighboring booers dobbed them in?............
It is interesting that the vilifiers seem to find each other at every game regardless of the team that they supporrt, then sit in a block, boo their head off at one bloke while still shielding themselves from incoming war dance spears.....
God they must find footy boring when their team does not play the bloods?
on 01-08-2015 07:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgukduYJZ44
^^^^^^^^^^^
"Short Memory"
Conquistador of Mexico
The Zulu and the Navaho
The Belgians in the Congo
Plantation in Virginia
The Raj in British India
The deadline in South Africa
The story of El Salvador
The silence of Hiroshima
Destruction of Cambodia
Short memory, must have a short memory
Neil Cordy and Kate Salemme The Daily Telegraph April 16, 2015 1:12PM
Sydney Swans star Adam Goodes dropped to NEAFL
Adam Goodes will play in the NEAFL this week.
CHAMPION utility Adam Goodes will be dropped from the Sydney Swans side to take on Greater Western Sydney on Saturday.
But Longmire says this the demotion isn’t the end for Goodes despite it being the first time in his 18 season and 353 game career he has been dropped.
Goodes will play in the curtain raiser to the Swans-Giants derby at the SCG on Saturday afternoon, which will be his first reserves game since he was drafted to the club in 1998.
“We want him to keep going and he’s keen to keep going,” Longmire said.
“As we sit here at the moment we still feel he has a valuable role to play for us because he finished the season off last year pretty strongly and we are only at round three and there’s a lot of football to go
The 35 year old was offered the job of substitute for the senior match but he told Longmire he wanted to turn his form around playing in the NEAFL.
“We had a discussion yesterday about him playing sub again this weekend and he said he’d be better off playing reserves,” Longmire said.
Jon Anderson Herald Sun April 16
THERE are few sadder sights in sport than a faded champion, and right now Adam Goodes sits comfortably in that category following news of his axing from Sydney’s team for Round 3.
There is no shame in admitting he has gone a year too long on a 353-game career that began in 1999, for many have gone before him in the world of sport.
Given the nature of the caper there are any number of pugilists, headed by the greatest of all in Muhammad Ali, who became a punching bag in his last four fights.
Goodes, 35, is in that same territory as his body can no longer match his mind, and when a large part of your greatness has been built around an explosive game style, there isn’t a lot left to fall back on.
Should he play in the NEAFL and play well enough to regain his senior position, then retain that spot, my admiration for him (which is already immense) will grow.
Sadly I can’t see that happening unless he has found a way to avoid an urgent appointment with Father Time.
what some of the fans thought in April 2015
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/adam-goodes-dropped-on-his-own-accord.1093863/
google link below is search string "Adam Goodes dropped April 16 2015"
you will not find many pundits that did not opine in April 2015 that Goodes had played one year too long and should
have retired in 2014
https://www.google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#q=+goodes+dropped+april+16+2015
I would like to see Adam Goodes come back and play and finish his career with the cheers and accolades that it
deserves but I think that decision is his alone but if it is one made in the affirmative, to rise above the adversity, (whether perceived or real) that it will ultimately define him as a great Australian to those that do not already realize that fact.
on 01-08-2015 08:14 AM
@punch*drunk wrote:I dont recall saying that racism is acceptable or that what the girl said was ok.
My 11yo niece is as tall as my 14yo daughter, probably as tall as that girl at the football, she's really tall for her age but not overweight. If someone told her she was huge she probably have a meltdown about it. She already wants to go on a diet because the stats tell her she's overweight for her age.
Its kind of double standards to be down on her, a child, for saying something offensive but then you call her names. I mean arent those of you that believe booing is racist working on the theory that its not what you say but how the other person perceives it?
As I have already said, I was not referring to her weight. I was not being "down on her" (the tone of the post should have made that clear).Why would I make the accusation that she is fat when she is clearly not? She is tall. Extremely tall. As tall as the security person escorting her out. She does not appear to be your average tiny 13 year old.
I was huge for my age when I started Year 7. I was already 5 10 by the time I was 12. And I was also that skinny my teachers thought I was anorexic. But there was no other word to descibe my height except huge. Massive.
Video for you in this article if you would like to see what I was referring to: http://www.smh.com.au/afl/sydney-swans/mother-of-teen-who-sledged-adam-goodes-says-fans-should-not-b...
Perahps I should have said in my original post that she was "very big" or "massive" or "gigantic" or "extremely tall". Whatever. It all means the same thing.
For people to take this comment so out of context in light of the overall discussion says a lot really. It tells me that people are failing to see the big picture in this sorry debate. And are spending their time nitpicking in order to deflect away from the reality.
(The last comment isn't directed specifically at you punch but is a general comment).
on 01-08-2015 08:17 AM
And another good article. The last line is an excellent sum up:
Because in Australia it’s worse to tell an indignant white person they are being racist, than it is to call an indigenous man an ape.
http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/3246136/why-adam-goodes-shows-us-we-have-a-race-problem/