on 17-04-2014 07:10 AM
If a small framed female say weighing around 46 - 50 kilos drank bourbon and coke from around 3.20pm to between 9 - 10 every week night do you believe she would still be over the limit if she got in her car to drive at say 6am the morning after .
Someone i know drinks like this and its more on a Friday and Saturday night as she stays up later. She doesnt see her drinking as a problem because she budgets for it . In 6 days she has drunk 2 x 1.25 ltrs bourbon and started on a 3rd not to mention all the coke tht she has also .
I believe if she got pulled over on the way to work one morning she would blow over the limit, would you agree ?
on 18-04-2014 12:58 PM
@buzzlightyearsgirlfriend wrote:
@2106greencat wrote:wow buzz, a little empathy would go a long way.
Yes, I am a recovering alcoholic, and I knew I needed help and thank God my kids got in my face and helped me thorugh it.
Meh.
Wow - and I thought I had problems.
I pity you, I really do, sorry but to be that heartless......words fail me.
on 18-04-2014 01:01 PM
There is really nothing you can do, youre right, unless she thinks she has a problem nothing you can do or say will have any effect.
maybe you could advise her and buy her a testy thingy and tell her to use it before she gets in her car? that's not calling her an alcoholic or saying she has a problem.
do you live with her, or flat together? that must be annoying for you if you do.
on 18-04-2014 01:01 PM
@hahahavefun wrote:I'll start by explaining more . She drinks Monday to Thursday from about 3.15 pm to between 9 - 10 PM only stopping at this time as she gets up for work those days at 4.45 am and leaves home at 6am . No breakfast only a cup of coffee .
Friday she will start again around 3.15 pm and can drink till midnight till 1 or 2 the next morning .
Saturday she will start again around 1 to 3 pm and again will drink till early hours of the morning .
She never has breakfast , has lunch and dinner but these are not what you would call a large meal .
She drinks bourbon with Diet Coke which i have been told is worse then having normal coke cola.
A family member told her once she had a problem and she went off saying it isnt a problem because she budgets for her drinking .
If her time is delayed in the afternoon by a few hrs to have her first drink she starts getting agitated or peeved off .
Im very surprised she hasnt seriously hurt herself giving how she has been found some mornings with the latest episode of breaking a floor to ceiling high glass mirror in a section . Her excuse is she tripped over a towel because she never hax the light on .
I have been told unless people like this are willing to admit they have a problem there is nothing you can do .
But at least you want to try - it's people like you that matter, so you do what you feel comfortable with - if it doesn't work out you will at least know you have tried to help a fellow human being who is quite obviously in trouble.
If it does work out...enough said. Don't be afraid to try.
on 18-04-2014 01:06 PM
They were where I was too.
But it was just a social event really, noone really paid any attention to the steps or anything.
do you drink? or no to everything? Ive never quite managed the no to everything approach.
18-04-2014 01:12 PM - edited 18-04-2014 01:13 PM
The No to everything approach will never work.
An addict has to be treated like a child to a certain degree.
When you give a child instruction, you need to limit it to the amount they can handle at one time - chucking out "do this, then do that, do it this way" is information overload - you need to give them time to absorb one thing at a time.
Same with addiction - deal with one addiction, then slowly deal with another if another exists.
Tell a person to stop gambling, stop smoking, stop drinking - all at once and you will have a meltdown of the highest order.
We can only deal with what we can when we can.
18-04-2014 01:58 PM - edited 18-04-2014 01:59 PM
too right greencat, it took me a few goes to accept the cold turkey concept
"relasped" a few times and on the hard stuff too
evenutally got used to the idea though
these days i do have an occassional drink duff, it's a waste of time and money really... i could down 2 bottles of wine before i feel an effect...go for the taste mainly, lol
on 18-04-2014 02:15 PM
hand in hand joz - you take it one day at a time
so far 287 days for me, and it is bloody hard, and every day I have to convince myself to NOT have a drink, rather than latch on to the first excuse I can come up with to have one.
day by day
on 18-04-2014 02:21 PM
I dont think the no to everything approach works either.
on 18-04-2014 02:28 PM
thats great GC 🙂 good going/.
on 18-04-2014 02:32 PM
lol. 2 bottles and Im smashed, lol. I stick to one most usually.
some would say we arent fully recovered Joe because we still have a drink. well thats what AA and NA would say anyway.
to that I say, my life is manageable, so whats the problem.