on 10-10-2013 09:21 PM
American Biblical scholar Joseph Atwill will be appearing before the British public for the first time in London on the 19th of October to present a controversial new discovery: ancient confessions recently uncovered now prove, according to Atwill, that the New Testament was written by first-century Roman aristocrats and that they fabricated the entire story of Jesus Christ.
Although to many scholars his theory seems outlandish, and is sure to upset some believers, Atwill regards his evidence as conclusive and is confident its acceptance is only a matter of time. "I present my work with some ambivalence, as I do not want to directly cause Christians any harm," he acknowledges, "but this is important for our culture. Alert citizens need to know the truth about our past so we can understand how and why governments create false histories and false gods. They often do it to obtain a social order that is against the best interests of the common people."
Was Jesus based on a real person from history? "The short answer is no," Atwill insists, "in fact he may be the only fictional character in literature whose entire life story can be traced to other sources. Once those sources are all laid bare, there's simply nothing left."
Is this the beginning of the end of Christianity? "Probably not," grants Atwill, "but what my work has done is give permission to many of those ready to leave the religion to make a clean break. We've got the evidence now to show exactly where the story of Jesus came from. Although Christianity can be a comfort to some, it can also be very damaging and repressive, an insidious form of mind control that has led to blind acceptance of serfdom, poverty, and war throughout history. To this day, especially in the United States, it is used to create support for war in the Middle East."
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11201273.htm
Nooooooooooooooooooo.
on 11-10-2013 06:24 PM
on 11-10-2013 06:25 PM
@**meep** wrote:
@**freethinker_bob** wrote:
@**meep** wrote:How on earth did you get all that from Crikey's post???
I was reading between the lines. He seemed a bit miffed that religion is discussed. He thinks people's belief should not be challenged. If he really cares about the truth, he would be welcoming all discussion/evidence that comes to hand. I was just using Islam as a example. I suspect he would not be too happy allowing religion to take over if it's not his religion.
i dont think so. Crikey, you, and myself have had endless religious discussions......
OK, maybe you can tell me what his point is?
on 11-10-2013 06:54 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
@**meep** wrote:that's interesting. on what would atheists base their belief in life after death?
Probably the same thinking that prompts people to post 'The Rainbow Bridge' to comfort posters whose pets have just died.
Is that what you're saying, Bob? It didnt come across that way from your post.
on 11-10-2013 07:02 PM
@**meep** wrote:
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
@**meep** wrote:that's interesting. on what would atheists base their belief in life after death?
Probably the same thinking that prompts people to post 'The Rainbow Bridge' to comfort posters whose pets have just died.
Is that what you're saying, Bob? It didnt come across that way from your post.
@**meep** wrote:
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
@**meep** wrote:that's interesting. on what would atheists base their belief in life after death?
Probably the same thinking that prompts people to post 'The Rainbow Bridge' to comfort posters whose pets have just died.
Is that what you're saying, Bob? It didnt come across that way from your post.
There's only one qualification for being an atheist. You can believe in every other **bleep** if you want to.
Let me ask you do you believe in Unicorns? No. So you're an aunicornist. OK does that mean you cannot believe in Santa. Ofcourse not.
Explain to me why you think you have to believe in God to believe in life after death?
on 11-10-2013 07:23 PM
I'm not necessarily saying that, Bob. Obviously, it is not only a religious concept.
I am still interested to hear from atheists re this. I know why I believe in life after death, I want to hear from an atheist.
I know you said they can believe in whatever they want, but that does not answer my question.
on 11-10-2013 07:59 PM
There are people who believe they have proof that no one ever landed on the moon as well. 🙂
on 11-10-2013 08:01 PM
@**freethinker_bob** wrote:
@**meep** wrote:How on earth did you get all that from Crikey's post???
I was reading between the lines. He seemed a bit miffed that religion is discussed. He thinks people's belief should not be challenged. If he really cares about the truth, he would be welcoming all discussion/evidence that comes to hand. I was just using Islam as a example. I suspect he would not be too happy allowing religion to take over if it's not his religion.
I'm a she
just sayin
and I think that you are basing your comments directed at me on what you perceive my beliefs to be.
I'm getting the idea that you have no idea about what it is that I do or don't believe.
As I said earlier, I have no need to believe - I know
on 11-10-2013 08:02 PM
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on 11-10-2013 08:11 PM