on 08-11-2013 11:57 AM
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/razor-taken-to-csiro-20131107-2x4fu.html#poll
Almost a quarter of scientists, researchers and workers at Australia's premier science institution will lose their jobs under the federal government's present public service jobs freeze.
The blanket staff freeze across the public service threatens the jobs of 1400 "non-ongoing" workers at the CSIRO and could paralyse some of the organisation's premier research projects, with a ban on hiring, extending or renewing short-term contracts effective immediately.
The impact of the freeze on the CSIRO follows fears expressed in the scientific community about the Abbott government's failure to nominate a dedicated science minister out of his cabinet or ministerial team. The concerns have been heightened by subsequent decisions, including the closure of the global waming advisory body the Climate Change Commission, and revelations on Thursday that Australia will not be sending its Environment Minister, Greg Hunt, or any ministerial stand-in to international climate change negotiations starting on Monday in Warsaw.
The freeze is part of the Abbott government's plan to cut 12,000 jobs from the public service.
On Friday, the government will also announce the immediate dismantling of a raft of government advisory bodies, expert panels and national steering committees, covering diverse areas including ageing, legal affairs, ethics and animal welfare. Federal cabinet this week signed off on the changes, which will see a dozen "non-statutory" bodies axed altogether, and several more amalgamated with other bodies or absorbed into existing departmental functions.
Prime Minister Tony Abbott repeatedly promised before the election that a Coalition government would dramatically reduce the size of the bureaucracy and would do away with thousands of regulations said to be clogging the economy.
"There are currently more than 50,000 Acts and legislative instruments, many of which are a handbrake on Australia's ability to get things done," Mr Abbott said.
The bodies scrapped are: Australian Animals Welfare Advisory Committee; Commonwealth Firearms Advisory Committee; International Legal Services Advisory Committee; National Inter-country Adoption Advisory Council; National Steering Committee on Corporate Wrongdoing; Antarctic Animal Ethics Committee; Advisory Panel on the Marketing in Australia of Infant Formula; High Speed Rail Advisory Group; Maritime Workforce Development Forum; Advisory Panel on Positive Ageing; Insurance Reform Advisory Group; and the National Housing Supply Council.
At the CSIRO, staff leaders fronted their bosses on Thursday, demanding answers on the fate of the workers on contracts, which can often last up to 24 months.
CSIRO has an unusually high proportion of “non-ongoings” with 990 “term” workers and about 440 casual staff among its 6500 headcount.
"It's going to be a huge problem," said one staff member, who wanted to remain anonymous.
Staff were told last week of the decision, which will hit the organisation's 11 research divisions and 11 national research flagships, as well as critical support for frontline scientists.
In an email to staff, CSIRO chief executive Megan Clarke said: "I announce an immediate recruitment freeze covering the following: External recruitment; and, entering into any new, or extending existing term or contract employment arrangements."
Catriona Jackson, the chief executive of Science and Technology Australia, the peak lobby for the nation's scientists, said she was "concerned that cuts to the public service may fall disproportionately on scientists".
West Australian federal Liberal Dennis Jensen, himself a former research scientist at CSIRO, said the suggestion that the government had an anti-science bias was incorrect.
But he admitted the failure to have a dedicated science minister worried him.
"That does concern me," he said.
"If somebody wanted to raise a concern from one of the Cooperative Research Centres, often a bridge between academia and industry, then who would they write to? Do they write to the education minister or the industry minister, I think that is the major problem, that the focus and drive of a single minister is lost."
Labor's spokesman for the environment, climate change and water, Mark Butler, said he wasn't surprised that scientists were being sacked by the government, say Mr Abbott does not respect scientists' work, particulary on climate change.
''And I don't think it's a coincidence that the experts being sacked by this government have previously pointed out the serious flaws in the Coalition's direct action con,'' Mr Butler said.
on 08-11-2013 02:41 PM
Narrow ideaology ????
By that are you saying that socialism is the answer? Look around you LL, is socialism working anywhere?
Are you in favour of a thousand committees funded by the public purse sitting around generating hot air?
08-11-2013 02:57 PM - edited 08-11-2013 02:58 PM
It's fightening really, science is important, over the years Aussies have come up with some good inventions and resolutions, I would hate to see our creativity thwarted
& Just today Qantas has announced the closure of it's maintenance division in Geelong, I think that's another 3,000 joining the dole queue there
some of those depts. National Housing Supply, ageing, Insurance reform, Animal Welfare, Legal services are quite relevent and important in my view
on 08-11-2013 03:04 PM
on 08-11-2013 03:28 PM
@poddster wrote:A brilliant move to cull all the committees/discussion panels of the deadwood that has accumulated under the stewardship of the wasteful labor government. Most of those committees/discussion panels were just "jobs for the boys", no wonder that budget surplus was never reached, not even close in 6 years. However there was a lot of hot air generated by all those committees/discussion panels.
Even now in opposition Labor is generating hot air.
But that is to be expected
Do you mean like former Deputy PM and Nationals Leader Tim Fischer?
on 08-11-2013 03:33 PM
@freddie*rooster wrote:
@poddster wrote:A brilliant move to cull all the committees/discussion panels of the deadwood that has accumulated under the stewardship of the wasteful labor government. Most of those committees/discussion panels were just "jobs for the boys", no wonder that budget surplus was never reached, not even close in 6 years. However there was a lot of hot air generated by all those committees/discussion panels.
Even now in opposition Labor is generating hot air.
But that is to be expected
Do you mean like former Deputy PM and Nationals Leader Tim Fischer?
And
Former Liberal minister Amanda Vanstone appointed to Commission of Audit
08-11-2013 03:35 PM - edited 08-11-2013 03:37 PM
Almost 300 to lose their jobs with Qantas at Geelong, already 250 lost jobs there beg. of this year.
Scientists without jobs will have to seek work overseas. A big loss for Australia.
on 08-11-2013 03:40 PM
@poddster wrote:A brilliant move to cull all the committees/discussion panels of the deadwood that has accumulated under the stewardship of the wasteful labor government. Most of those committees/discussion panels were just "jobs for the boys", no wonder that budget surplus was never reached, not even close in 6 years. However there was a lot of hot air generated by all those committees/discussion panels.
Even now in opposition Labor is generating hot air.
But that is to be expected
Most of these committees weren't expensive to run. Token payments for meetings. It's very dangerous ground when a government professes to know it all. It is very insular getting information from government depts without expanding to the outside world where experts on the subject access communities and others to gain their information.
The cuts to CSIRÖ are very alarming. Not only for the those losing their jobs but the demoralising of their counterparts. But who needs science when you have Wikipedia.
"Ëven now in opposition labor is generating hot air" lol. Like the libs didn't like the sound of their own voices in opposition. They just seem to be fumbling their way through with secrecy being their modus opperandi. Tell us nothing so we have nothing to complain about. Great way to run the country.
on 08-11-2013 03:47 PM
@***super_nova*** wrote:I believe that some of them have not finished what they were set up to do.
But in any case, it always benefits employers if there is high unemployment because it means they will have a submissive workforce & good choice of people desperate to get a job, who will accept any conditions.
Then no doubt there will be some restructuring to be done which, when complete will allow for employment of those with the relevant skills to fill any vacant positions. I would hope that any government or business did not hold onto or create jobs just to make their unemployment figures look better.
Perhaps those who are now unemployed and those who will be in the future can either enter private employment or retrain into one of the many, many jobs on our list of skills shortages in an effort to decrease the number of immigrants needed and to stop falsely inflating the population requirements that we currently need to service the existing population.
If the current skills base is not required to meet the needs of the economy both now and in the future, then it is good management, on any level, to redistribute the skills base. If you need a plumber, why hire an electrician?
This redistribution of an outdated skills base also enhances the possibility of "Employing Australians for Australian Jobs" rather than outsourcing those jobs overseas or "importing" people with the skills neccessary to service our existing population.
And a competitive workforce is desirable because it reduces the amount of people capable of filling available positions whose expectations are unrealistic, reducing their desirability and driving employers to seek alternatives not conducive to the "Employ Australians" expectations of the general population. Some would call that a "reality check" in this age where a sense of self entitlement has risen to unprecedented levels of prevalence.
Just because one chooses to be trained in a specific field does not give them a right or a guarantee that they will be employed/employable within that field. Most university graduates can undertake a Grad. Dip of a one year duration and be retrained into a number of the occupations listed as being in demand to address our current skills shortage. And for someone with scientific qualifications especially, many of those positions attract a higher salary than what they currently receive.
Whether self employed or working for somebody else, diversity and growth are essential elements to accommodate the constantly changing and evolving requirements of an elastic population.
on 08-11-2013 03:50 PM
qwestion time tuesday. will bronny allow questions ? promises great entertainment
on 08-11-2013 03:56 PM
@lakeland27 wrote:how do mass sackings help anybody ? will the savings benefit all australians ? obviously not.
it will redistribute the workforce and assist with filling occupations where there is currently a deficit in available skills.
The emphasis being on "benefit all Australians".