on 16-02-2013 01:27 PM
for science? cosmetics or others?
Do you differentiate between what animal being tested is acceptable to you?
on 16-02-2013 01:57 PM
Humans have no more rights than another being/animal/insect.
Would we get upset if clever apes performed fatal experiments on us? We would probably start a war than accept it.
I would rather the natural existence without the benefit of medicines derived from detrimental testing of any form.
We are the clever apes.
Do you eat meat, Denmark?
on 16-02-2013 02:01 PM
i think the dillemma facing manufacturers whose products are for use on human skin is the choice between being sued by consumers if something goes wrong, or to test on creatures with living tissue . perhaps the idea of cosmetics themselves is the real problem. ochre might be a better option.
like some of those products that are essentially dirt (not forgetting 'botanicals' )
on 16-02-2013 02:06 PM
Against it for cosmetics (use the models on the ads for testing)
Cannot really argue against it for medical
Completely for it when it comes to testing space travel
on 16-02-2013 02:09 PM
There are no medications to be used for humans without animal testing first. I think animal testing is necessity up to certain level.
I have worked at pharmaceutical company lab in my early 20's. They mainly used mice and rats. I didn't have problems with my work till when I had to work with a guy in another section and walked pass a room which contained 5 Beagles tied up on leads from the wall. That was the time I didn't want to work there anymore. So I said "Yes" when my ex-husband proposed me and quit the job.
It was over 30 years ago and I still remember their sad eyes I saw through the window. The saddest thing was they wagged their tails to me when they realised I was there watching through the window.
on 16-02-2013 02:20 PM
that utube rescue of Beagles is soooo sad....sniff
on 16-02-2013 02:42 PM
Very against it and try to avoid products that use or are associated with animal testing,
I think that's the problem with the issue - people automatically associated animal testing with cosmetics. Animal testing has bad press because people associate it with vanity.
But the vast majority of animal testing is done to discover cures for serious medical conditions.
Most people on these boards have vaccinated their children against illnesses that would have killed them not that long ago. Most of these illnesses have been eradicated because of cures tested on animals. What other choice would you have? Would you have children tested instead to determine cures? Would we better off without the vaccinations?
There are still plenty of products on the shelf in Australia that use animal testing the majority probably link back to the same half a dozen very large companies. If they will not ban products that use animal testing in Australia for cosmetics then I would like to see the company made to label their products as 'tested on animals' so the consumer can make an informed decision.
As for medical and scientific purposes I still think that alternatives can and should be used and I believe that in many cases this is possible.
on 16-02-2013 03:03 PM
I don't like it.It's a shame that for medical purposes the alternative would be people and children (a mad little man did it that way...human experiments )
I think that we benefit from it .
Testing Cosmetics .. I don't see cosmetics as vital/life saving ..so not necessary
on 16-02-2013 03:05 PM
for
on 16-02-2013 03:21 PM
There are still plenty of products on the shelf in Australia that use animal testing the majority probably link back to the same half a dozen very large companies. If they will not ban products that use animal testing in Australia for cosmetics then I would like to see the company made to label their products as 'tested on animals' so the consumer can make an informed decision.
But whilst we continue to use cosmetics (and 99% of women do) then what is the alternative?
If we don't test on animals, then the alternative is to test on humans.
Is this acceptable? ?:|
And for those cosmetics that say "not tested on animals", that is simply semantics because somewhere along the line the formula they use WOULD have been tested against animals even if that particular company hasn't.
on 16-02-2013 03:28 PM
Here are some benefits
antibiotics
vaccines
insulins
pharmaceuticals to treat high blood pressure, epilepsy,ulcers, cancer and mental illness
anaesthetics
Veterinary medicine (all veterinary treatments, prophylactic measures and diagnostic techniques have to be tested in animals)
http://animalresearch.info/en/medical-advances/128/animal-research-and-medical-progress/