Are you for or against animal testing?

[the_bob_delusion]

for science? cosmetics or others?

Do you differentiate between what animal being tested is acceptable to you?

[cherry*135]

Against animal testing for cosmetics.

Body Shop - never tested its products on animals. If they can do it why can't other cosmetic manufacturers?

How do you test a lipstick on a rabbit anyway?

[cherry*135]

It seems cosmetic companies wanting to break into/sell more in China are going back to animal testing as China requires certain products that have been tested on animals (rodents and rabbits) first.

But as economic power moves East, companies are looking to new markets to expand.

Most are now operating In China, where it is mandatory to test certain products on animals.

This means that products are increasingly being made from ingredients tested on animals.

Four companies: L’Occitane, Yve Rocher, Caudalie and Mary Kay have had the leaping bunny logo removed because they can no longer guarantee they do not conduct or commission animal testing for their products or ingredient.

L’Oreal, Max Factor, Pantene, Johnson and Johnson and Wella also test on animals in order to sell to China.

Body Shop, that is owned by L’Oreal, only stocks cruelty free products and has been approved by the British Union for the Abolition of Vivisection.

Lush also guarantees products and ingredients are "cruelty-free".

[*crikey*mate*]

I say do these tests on criminals serving life. 

If they want to act like animals, why not. 

If they can't value human life, we might as well follow their lead. 

So, do you also believe in Capital Punishment?

I can sense the same sort of arguments being presented....

[*crikey*mate*]

Body Shop, that is owned by L’Oreal, only stocks cruelty free products and has been approved by the British Union for the Abolition of Vivisection.

Lush also guarantees products and ingredients are "cruelty-free".

Kinda curious how they define "cruelty free".

[cherry*135]

Body Shop

Our Commitments

We guarantee that none of our products are tested
on animals
Our ingredients come from suppliers who do not test
their source of the ingredient used in our products
on animals, for any cosmetic purpose
We sell only vegetarian-friendly products

[cherry*135]

Kinda curious how they define "cruelty free".

How Is a Company Certified as Cruelty-Free?

Companies listed either signed PETA's statement of assurance or provided a statement verifying that they do not conduct or commission any animal tests on ingredients, formulations, or finished products and that they pledge not to do so in the future.

Beauty Without Bunnies program.

[crystal**flake]

For, for medicine.

[cosmosgrove]

I think I read earlier that Avon has also returned to animal testing after two decades so they can export to China.

[freakiness]

In medical research they breed the animals for the purpose of research.

The animals wouldn't have been born otherwise.

I don't consider myself qualified to advocate against using animals as I would have benefited from such research in my life. I think it is justifiable.

[i-need-a-martini]

Body Shop, that is owned by L’Oreal, only stocks cruelty free products and has been approved by the British Union for the Abolition of Vivisection.

I've just looked at one product on the Body Shop website (Vanilla Perfume Oil) and picked out one ingredient: Butylphenyl. 

Butylphenyl is a synthetic fragance used in just about everything from cheap perfumes to bubblebath. It's also toxic and a high level skin irritant and as such is a regulated and restricted product. Fortunately for us all, it has been tested (on animals) for decades to determine the safe levels that can be used and requires more testing when used in different chemical combinations. 

Whilst the Body Shop may not have personally tested this chemical on an animal themselves under their own label, this product has been tested adinfinitum to ensure that the composition, quantity and it's reaction with other chemicals in this product is safe.

Every time the Body Shop introduces a new product that they label 'no animal testing' they are riding on the coat tales of some other product that another company that HAS tested on animals to ensure that recipe is safe on human skin.

Yes they can have the little rabbit stamp on their product because THEY haven't been found to be animal testing but the ingredients in their products got their via animal testing.

Should also point out that the Body Shop may not test on animals but L'Oreal (who owns Body Shop) sure does.;-)