on 24-02-2014 09:25 PM
THE body governing halal meat in Indonesia is accused of demanding tens of thousands of dollars in "donations" and travel expenses from Australian businesses.
Indonesia's Tempo Magazine reports that meat entering the country must be certified halal - that is, prepared under Islamic guidelines - by groups licensed by the Indonesian Clerics Council (MUI).
Tempo reports that Australian groups seeking certification must pay large "donations" to the MUI, and foot the bill for groups of its representatives to visit.
Head of Halal Certification Authority based in Sydney, Mohammed El-Mouelhy, told Tempo that even though he agreed to the terms, he never got a halal label and was never told why.
Tempo reports seeing receipts for one business' deposits to the head of the MUI, Amidhan Shaberah.
The largest was $10,000, apparently to stop the MUI revoking the license of a business called Australian Halal Food Services.
Australian abattoirs are also being made to pay hundreds so the approved groups can inspect their facilities.
Director of meat processors JBS Australia, John Berry, told the magazine the high cost of halal certification was limiting business and concerning meat exporters who deal with Indonesia.
AAP has approached the MUI for comment.
Indonesian Twitter users expressed outrage at the report.
Some called for the end of the MUI "monopoly" and many called its conduct "haram," or forbidden by Islamic law.
"Heart & conduct must be halal too," user Rudy tweeted.
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Hmmm...The Aussie Nation is a huge cash cow, apparently.
on 26-02-2014 05:18 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:How much reading does it take?
I've read all 3 novels of Khaleed Hossein, A Thousand Splendid Suns, The Kite Runner, and And Mountains Echoed. Fiction, I know they, but the subject matter is a fairl reflection on the culture the author has grown up with and knows well. All 3 books protray the demand for obedience from women by their husbands, male relatives and religious leaders.
Maybe you should stick to reading your bible instead - specially the Old Testament.why?
Does it have a chapter on halal slaughter?
No but I'm pretty sure it lays down rules regarding kosher food - and it has plenty to say about the treatment of women.
Well I'll have to take your word for it there, She-el, as I've never read the bible in full, I found it very slow reading. With regard to the treatment of women, it doesn't surprise me, as judaism has it's origins also in the middle-east and has many similarities to Islam.
With regard to kosher - do bodies governing kosher meat processing demand fees, donations and trave expenses from Australian businesses jewish inspectors similar to Indonesian Clerics Council (MUI)?
Just to refresh you on the topic:
"Indonesia's Tempo Magazine reports that meat entering the country must be certified halal - that is, prepared under Islamic guidelines - by groups licensed by the Indonesian Clerics Council (MUI).
Tempo reports that Australian groups seeking certification must pay large "donations" to the MUI, and foot the bill for groups of its representatives to visit.
Head of Halal Certification Authority based in Sydney, Mohammed El-Mouelhy, told Tempo that even though he agreed to the terms, he never got a halal label and was never told why.
Tempo reports seeing receipts for one business' deposits to the head of the MUI, Amidhan Shaberah.
The largest was $10,000, apparently to stop the MUI revoking the license of a business called Australian Halal Food Services.
Australian abattoirs are also being made to pay hundreds so the approved groups can inspect their facilities.
Director of meat processors JBS Australia, John Berry, told the magazine the high cost of halal certification was limiting business and concerning meat exporters who deal with Indonesia.
AAP has approached the MUI for comment.
Indonesian Twitter users expressed outrage at the report.
Some called for the end of the MUI "monopoly" and many called its conduct "haram," or forbidden by Islamic law.
"Heart & conduct must be halal too," user Rudy tweeted"
BBL
on 26-02-2014 05:36 PM
With regard to kosher - do bodies governing kosher meat processing demand fees, donations and trave expenses from Australian businesses jewish inspectors similar to Indonesian Clerics Council (MUI)?
I have no idea - if they do then I guess they are as guilty of extortion as the MUI - .and you are right, the OP had nothing to do with halal slaughtering practices, only the fees being demanded for accreditation.
Now I come to think of it, I am a bit surprised to learn that there is even a viable export market in halal meat - I had assumed the meat we exported to Muslim countries was almost exclusively "on the hoof"
on 26-02-2014 05:48 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:With regard to kosher - do bodies governing kosher meat processing demand fees, donations and trave expenses from Australian businesses jewish inspectors similar to Indonesian Clerics Council (MUI)?
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there are fees involved in kosher supervision as the supervisors need to be paid for their time and skill.
But they do not "demand fees, donations and trave expenses from Australian businesses jewish inspectors similar to Indonesian Clerics Council (MUI)?"