Australian parents raising a generation of spoilt brats

[icyfroth]

A prominent Australian psychologist has warned Australia is currently raising a generation of spoilt brats, because their parents are "**bleep**" and "never say no".

Dr Michael Carr-Gregg believes today's parents have a lot to answer for, and there may be serious long-term consequences for Australia. 

An evolution in parenting styles over the last 20 years is to blame for the influx of bad parenting, Dr Carr-Gregg said.

"We've had people moving to these artificial villages called cities, primarily to get jobs and in doing so, a lot of the kinship networks have been destroyed.

An evolution in parenting styles over the last 20 years is to blame for the influx of bad parenting, Dr Carr-Gregg said.

"We've had people moving to these artificial villages called cities, primarily to get jobs and in doing so, a lot of the kinship networks have been destroyed.

"A lot of the wisdom around parenting, which was derived from grandparents, for example, has no longer been so readily available."

The consequences of bad parenting has both short- and long-term effects, warned Dr Carr-Gregg.

"The short-term consequences you can see in restaurants and in waiting rooms and in airports throughout Australia, where you have these kids who are just completely feral, running out of control.

"Parents don't do anything about it because they're frightened of being seen as bad parents or frightened to say no."

Dr Carr-Gregg said this style of parenting has major effects on the mental health of children and adolescents as they grow up.

"Long-term, I think what we're doing is infantilising a lot of children into incompetence."

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Shopping on Friday, a kid was running up and down the aisle upsetting ppls shopping cart and running into ppl. His Dad never said a word. I wanted to tell the kid to stop his mad running but I wasn't game lol.

[azureline**]

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@daydream**believer wrote:

there are good kids and there are bad kids.

I have 3 kids ages 13, 11 and 3 and i know hey are good kids.

I do think the good kids out number the bad kids, unfortunately the good kids dont get reports written about them and studies done on them and the attention that the bad kids get

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all kids are good............. they have the potential to be either good or bad, many things have an influence on that...............

[lloydslights]

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@azureline** wrote:

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@mugssy65 wrote:
Bella we are having all sorts of problems with my youngest grandson, he is a daycare kid, mum is single and has to work. M...is two and a half and has realised that they can't discipline him at daycare, their hands are tied! He hits pokes tongues and yells at his careers, he wouldn't dare do this if his mum or any family member was around. Daycare isn't allowed to use the word no or naughty, not allowed to give time out and a short sharp smack on the bum would see the centre closed and the owners in court!
What can you do? He is to young to reason with 4 hours after the offence was committed.

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change day care.................... get some psychological or OT therapy.

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Mum has to work?

Imagine a child being dressed while not fully awake.  Scooped up and put in the car.  Driven to daycare; left to the care of others.  Watch Mum go off.  Abandonment again.  Dad's not around all the time.  Who are these other kids that annoy me?

Why can't I get a hug from mummy now?  

So the child reacts in a way that gets some attention.  Classed as unacceptable behaviour.  

And so needs therapy?

I'm sorry that the Mother's world has been turned upside down.  But so has the child's.  And the child hasn't the capacity to deal with it.  He/she needs the mother to continue nurturing at home .  

Not to be bundled up and taken to another "foreign" place to talk with another stranger about being naughty, while mum is frazzled by having to fit something else into her already busy schedule.  And starts to think her child is a nuisance.

All because he wants his mummy at home till he matures a bit more.

DEB

[siggie-reported-by-alarmists]

Foreign place?.....some children might consider the daycare more of second home due to the amount of time spent there.

No doubt they would also develop a special love for those caring for them...... always have friends their own age to play with.....

always have activities to keep them busy........just because another child has a stay at home mum, doesn't mean they have received

the love, care and attention they need.  

[boris1gary]

oh well, if they get too "naughty and uncontrollable" we can always ship them off to our "Low Security Childcare Centres".

[azureline**]

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@lloydslights wrote:

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@azureline** wrote:

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@mugssy65 wrote:
Bella we are having all sorts of problems with my youngest grandson, he is a daycare kid, mum is single and has to work. M...is two and a half and has realised that they can't discipline him at daycare, their hands are tied! He hits pokes tongues and yells at his careers, he wouldn't dare do this if his mum or any family member was around. Daycare isn't allowed to use the word no or naughty, not allowed to give time out and a short sharp smack on the bum would see the centre closed and the owners in court!
What can you do? He is to young to reason with 4 hours after the offence was committed.

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change day care.................... get some psychological or OT therapy.

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Mum has to work?

Imagine a child being dressed while not fully awake.  Scooped up and put in the car.  Driven to daycare; left to the care of others.  Watch Mum go off.  Abandonment again.  Dad's not around all the time.  Who are these other kids that annoy me?

Why can't I get a hug from mummy now?  

So the child reacts in a way that gets some attention.  Classed as unacceptable behaviour.  

And so needs therapy?

I'm sorry that the Mother's world has been turned upside down.  But so has the child's.  And the child hasn't the capacity to deal with it.  He/she needs the mother to continue nurturing at home .  

Not to be bundled up and taken to another "foreign" place to talk with another stranger about being naughty, while mum is frazzled by having to fit something else into her already busy schedule.  And starts to think her child is a nuisance.

All because he wants his mummy at home till he matures a bit more.

DEB

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Excuse me?

Occupational therapists and child psychologists can help children adjust and to change unacceptable behaviours with very simple techniques.

At no time did I say he needs therapy and to discuss being naughty  with a stranger................ It gives mum some much needed help too. If mum has to work, there doesn't seem to be much choice but better than being considered the uncontrollable brat at his child care.

[lloydslights]

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@azureline** wrote:

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@lloydslights wrote:

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@azureline** wrote:

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@mugssy65 wrote:
Bella we are having all sorts of problems with my youngest grandson, he is a daycare kid, mum is single and has to work. M...is two and a half and has realised that they can't discipline him at daycare, their hands are tied! He hits pokes tongues and yells at his careers, he wouldn't dare do this if his mum or any family member was around. Daycare isn't allowed to use the word no or naughty, not allowed to give time out and a short sharp smack on the bum would see the centre closed and the owners in court!
What can you do? He is to young to reason with 4 hours after the offence was committed.

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change day care.................... get some psychological or OT therapy.

_________________________________________________________________________________________________

Mum has to work?

Imagine a child being dressed while not fully awake.  Scooped up and put in the car.  Driven to daycare; left to the care of others.  Watch Mum go off.  Abandonment again.  Dad's not around all the time.  Who are these other kids that annoy me?

Why can't I get a hug from mummy now?  

So the child reacts in a way that gets some attention.  Classed as unacceptable behaviour.  

And so needs therapy?

I'm sorry that the Mother's world has been turned upside down.  But so has the child's.  And the child hasn't the capacity to deal with it.  He/she needs the mother to continue nurturing at home .  

Not to be bundled up and taken to another "foreign" place to talk with another stranger about being naughty, while mum is frazzled by having to fit something else into her already busy schedule.  And starts to think her child is a nuisance.

All because he wants his mummy at home till he matures a bit more.

DEB

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Excuse me?

Occupational therapists and child psychologists can help children adjust and to change unacceptable behaviours with very simple techniques.

At no time did I say he needs therapy and to discuss being naughty  with a stranger................ It gives mum some much needed help too. If mum has to work, there doesn't seem to be much choice but better than being considered the uncontrollable brat at his child care.

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Who responded originally, above?

In this particular case,  the symptom is being treated.  It is the cause that needs intervention, in my opinion.

DEB

[bushies.girl]

Ahhh but Deb isn't that what one does these days? It's easier for the parent to whip the kid off to the counselor or chuck pills down it's throat, than to admit that THEY ( the parent ) might be the problem.  Why on earth would you need child psychologists 'cause your 2 yrl isn't coping at day care?

[azureline**]

OT and child Psychs can help with that.......................... it obviously is not the mum's fault, since family don't have a problem with him. Something or someone at day care is not doing a good enough job.

Pills??? why would anyone give him pills?

[bushies.girl]

Don't remember saying they did lol Why does it have to be anyone's fault? perhaps he just doesn't like be at child care lol

[lealta]

I'm sorry, but I totally disagree with this post disparaging working mothers.  A woman can work and take her children to day care and they will turn out just fine.  I went back to work eight weeks after each of my kids were born.  The woman who took care of them, loved them as if they were her own.  The secret with day care for me, was finding somewhere that I knew my children were  going to be well taken care of.  I personally wanted my children with a private sitter who only had a couple of children to watch because I felt they would get more nurturing there, than in a huge daycare center with dozens and dozens of children.  But I do know there are also really good places where there are lots of children. 

Many children of workig mothers have turned out to be wonderful adults.