on 21-06-2009 06:52 AM
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on 12-06-2025 03:53 PM
I don't think she has a full set of matching anything to be honest - upstairs - I mean.
Oh - you also have one of those - not so strange - DD has sets - but never wears them together - odds and sods. 😀
She did have matching...................
on 12-06-2025 05:42 PM
❝Key Event 27 May, 12:25pm
Images of Erin's plates shown to court
The court is now being shown some still images from a video of the search of Erin Patterson's house on August 5, 2023.
The first photo shows the living room of Ms Patterson's Leongatha home, where the lunch was held. As we've had described previously, the kitchen is to one side and the lounge room the other, in an open-plan design.
We are then shown a photo of an open dishwasher.
There are several plates which are red on top and black on the bottom, as well as a white plate with some colour on it. They are all neatly stacked into the dishwasher.
Another photo shows a drawer in the kitchen, first closed, then opened.
At the back of the drawer is a stack of four dark-coloured plates, and in the front is a single multi-coloured plate with stripes of blue, black and orange against a white background.❞
on 12-06-2025 06:01 PM
As Erin Patterson did leave hospital against medical advice well before the search, and didn’t answer her phone or texts from the hospital for about an hour and 40 minutes, before she finally went back, it is possible that other plates were disposed of. From testimony, is it concluded that the 4 grey plates spoken of by Ian (sole survivor) were not the dark-coloured plates found in the search? And what of the orange tan-coloured smaller plate used by Ms Patterson, as reported by Ian? (Heather also mentioned a smaller coloured plate used by Erin, on the way to hospital in the ambulance.)
Ms Patterson’s son’s testimony in the police interview mentions white plates, and this leads one to think that the grey plates were light grey - if they are the same ones.
on 12-06-2025 06:04 PM
OK - read that.
What was in the dishwasher on July 29th........
These pics are of August 5...............??
on 12-06-2025 06:04 PM
From that link -
By Joseph Dunstan
The court is now shown a photo of different plates, stacked in a drawer.
At the back of the drawer are four black-coloured plates. The bottom two appear to have a red surface on the top of them (or the "eating surface" as Sergeant Farrell dubs it).
The bottom one has a small chip on the edge.
Mr Mandy puts to Sergeant Farrell that the plates are "side plates, not dinner plates". The detective says it's hard to say without anything there for comparison.
We're reminded that these photos are stills from the video taken by a videographer moving through the scene.
Sergeant Farrell is not aware of any more detailed footage being captured showing these plates.
By Joseph Dunstan
The court is shown the photos of plates in the dishwasher again, which Sergeant Farrell agrees includes smaller and larger plates.
From left to right, we see a large white plate, a similarly large plate that is red on top and black on the bottom, then a smaller version of that red-and-black plate.
Three more plates sit beside it, including two in the middle where Sergeant Farrell says it's harder to tell the exact colour on the back.
So, I'm still unsure how many different, or matching dinner, plates she actually had.
on 12-06-2025 06:51 PM
@domino-710 wrote:OK - read that.
What was in the dishwasher on July 29th........
These pics are of August 5...............??
Yes, that’s when the police had a warrant and performed the search. I wish we could see the dishwasher as on 29 July!
12-06-2025 06:52 PM - edited 12-06-2025 06:53 PM
Back to the dates.
One could chuck plates - buy new plates etc - cash.
It was stated at the time - 4 large grey plates.
Oh and the lunch was supposed to be to discuss how to tell the kids - cancer.
Which she doesn't have - nor has been tested for.
Back to the defence. lol
on 12-06-2025 07:18 PM
That hits on one of the aspects that most disturbs me: the lies.
To me, at this point, they’re difficult to overcome, these lies, if Ms Patterson is innocent. The defence has not - to me - been able to explain the lies in a consistent and credible manner. Claiming she had cancer? Diagnosed? Biopsy? And the gastric bypass appointment that never was and couldn’t have been?
on 12-06-2025 07:27 PM
The dishwasher would have been empty, plates in the bin/disposed of?
I think she’s clever and thinks she can outsmart them….due to non-diligence.
I was on jury duty years ago…….the prosecution argument was full of flaws (police included)…we arrived at ‘not guilty’, purely because of the ‘botched job’
on 12-06-2025 08:08 PM
As Erin Patterson did leave hospital against medical advice well before the search, and didn’t answer her phone or texts from the hospital for about an hour and 40 minutes, before she finally went back, it is possible that other plates were disposed of. From testimony, is it concluded that the 4 grey plates spoken of by Ian (sole survivor) were not the dark-coloured plates found in the search?
All the stuff about non matching plates or not answering her phone wouldn't influence me. If I were serving people, I'd tend to give them matching plates and if I didn't have any more, use the odd one myself. And I am notorious for not seeing calls or texts on my phone for hours as I rarely have my phone on me. Younger people, I know, have it practically soldered to their backside.
But I think we'd all feel heaps better if Erin had been really, really sick herself, as in almost died too.
Getting rid of plates would be a downright stupid thing to do though, surely. Once it went through a dishwasher, it should be fine. In fact, if you were guilty, you'd probably smear some poison mushroom mix right across your own plate before you popped it in the dishwasher.
No one with any brains could possibly think that all the illnesses or deaths would remain mysterious and that autopsies would not be performed etc. Unless she just hoped to make them a bit sick, but not so sick they ended up under investigation? Surely no one is that naive though?
I find the whole case very strange.
I am not sure of the time line (not up with all the details of the case), but the people probably had time to leave the lunch before they started getting ill and collapsing? If so, she would have done the cleaning up after they left?
The one thing I did find strange was when all the people at her lunch started to be seriously ill & she was asked to get her kids checked, she didn't rush them in to the hospital. She said she knew she scraped off the mushroom bit from their meal but.. wouldn't you be worried maybe the meat was off or something else in the meal may have caused the illness, & get your children tested just in case?
Or if you knew the relatives were going down ill next day, why would you serve the kids leftovers. One person feeling ill next day might be coincidence, several of your guests though means probably it was something you served.
The whole case is unusual, to say the least, and I think I can predict what the verdict is likely to be.